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Hi guys, I need to buy a set of 185/60/14 tyres for a spare set of rims for doing airfield days and wishes4kids days etc. I normally use Toyo 888R, Yokohama 48R / ao21R's at nearly £400 per set but on airfield days I can virtually ruin brand new ones hooning for the kids in one day (rears anyway), and its working out way too expensive. So I need to get a set of "regular" "buget" tyres that can withstand a good pasting and get at least 3 or 4 days out of. And be fairly decent on the road in between. 185 / 60/ 14 is a funny size as lots of good tyres seem to miss this size out, or they are dearer than equivalent 13s or 15s (annoying). I am looking towards Toyo Proxes CF1 at the mo at around £40 each, has anyone here ever used these on a lightweight kitcar?? Also seen some Yoko A539s which are £75 each but should last fairly well, if I remember lots of Fisher Fury's used these back in the day. Any personal experience of those too??
My only experience of regular tyres on the phoenix ere a set of second hand Avon ZV3's which came free with a set of Caterham rims I bought. These are caterhams "cooking" tyre I believe, but i found it was like i'd attatched 4 spacehoppers or big baloons to the car!! It was all bouncy, and by the time i'd raised the pressure 5 psi to compensate the ride had gone to pot ( compared to 21R's)
My only experience of regular tyres on the phoenix ere a set of second hand Avon ZV3's which came free with a set of Caterham rims I bought. These are caterhams "cooking" tyre I believe, but i found it was like i'd attatched 4 spacehoppers or big baloons to the car!! It was all bouncy, and by the time i'd raised the pressure 5 psi to compensate the ride had gone to pot ( compared to 21R's)
Paul Drawmer said:
Lee, I know I drive my age, but 539s were way too hard for the Libra, couldn't wear them out, so should do you well. As a road tyre, I liked them a lot. V good in the wet, progressive at the limit.
+1Further advice would be to strip off the hard outer layer each season after a winter heat cycle. I forgot to do this before a hoon to Haynes Motor Museum and the result was a bent chassis andloads of glasswork! (of course driver error also played its part!!)
I have 14" wheels on my Minari and need the same size tyres. My car's not on the road yet, but I've been looking at tyres for a while ...
I don't have any direct experience, but have done a lot of research ...
The CF1's would probably be OK, but for about the same money, you could get Falken ZE-912's, Kumho KH17's or Uniroyal Rainexperts.
I'd probably go for the Uniroyals myself. If you wanted to spend a bit more, it might be worth trying Dunlop SP Sport Fast Responses, or maybe even Bridgestone ER300's, still at reasonable money. (I guess Michelin PE2's at around £100 a pop would kinda defeat the object!)
Another option you might want to look at is T1R's in 195/55/14 - not cheap in this size, but could be worth a try - although I also understand that they aren't the best on the track.
Watch out for any A539's, they could be pretty old by now - I think Yokohama stopped making them in 185/60/14 quite a while ago.
Out of interest, what are your thoughts on 21R's as a road tyre? It's one of the options I was thinking of, but suspect they might be a little OTT for the road and probably wouldn't last that long.
(Any feedback would be appreciated!)
I don't have any direct experience, but have done a lot of research ...
The CF1's would probably be OK, but for about the same money, you could get Falken ZE-912's, Kumho KH17's or Uniroyal Rainexperts.
I'd probably go for the Uniroyals myself. If you wanted to spend a bit more, it might be worth trying Dunlop SP Sport Fast Responses, or maybe even Bridgestone ER300's, still at reasonable money. (I guess Michelin PE2's at around £100 a pop would kinda defeat the object!)
Another option you might want to look at is T1R's in 195/55/14 - not cheap in this size, but could be worth a try - although I also understand that they aren't the best on the track.
Watch out for any A539's, they could be pretty old by now - I think Yokohama stopped making them in 185/60/14 quite a while ago.
Out of interest, what are your thoughts on 21R's as a road tyre? It's one of the options I was thinking of, but suspect they might be a little OTT for the road and probably wouldn't last that long.
(Any feedback would be appreciated!)
Just a thought but you could check out maxxis tyres? I cannot vouch for them as ive never tried them, but they were making a big song and dance at the autosport show... Had some good looking tyres on the stand. I enquired about 13's, which they don't do yet, but 14s they do do. Could be worth a quick shufti on the web?
Edited by surrey7er on Sunday 16th January 21:12
Frankthered said:
Is there any chance you could pick up a cheap set of 15" wheels? Loads of stuff about in 195/50/15!
I've got the same issue with the Mojo, 13" lose internal wheel clearance, 15" lose sidewall and have to rejig settings.http://www.maxsport-competition-tyres.co.uk/
are tarmac maxsport tyres E marked? Duh!! YES they are!
Edited by Mojocvh on Tuesday 18th January 16:51
Edited by Mojocvh on Wednesday 19th January 00:39
Frankthered, Yoko 21R's are THE best roat tyres in my opinion, by far. BUT they are SO soft I get less than 3,000 miles from a set, and that is doing 1,500 miles of that on motorways! As soon as you hoon on them they wear out at a frightening rate. OK at £200 a set, but they are nearly £400 after delivery and fitting and I cannot affort that for larking about. I did discover Toyo T1-R is 195/55/14 at about £40 each so I am going to give them a try.
Lee,
www.Camskill.co.uk do Toyo T1R's very cheap. Got a set of 4 for my daily car (195 50 R15) for £128 delivered. Would recommend those for a 7 too.
Cheers,
Gary.
www.Camskill.co.uk do Toyo T1R's very cheap. Got a set of 4 for my daily car (195 50 R15) for £128 delivered. Would recommend those for a 7 too.
Cheers,
Gary.
mk1storm said:
Lee,
www.Camskill.co.uk do Toyo T1R's very cheap. Got a set of 4 for my daily car (195 50 R15) for £128 delivered. Would recommend those for a 7 too.
T1Rs are not available in 14", never have been AFAIK.www.Camskill.co.uk do Toyo T1R's very cheap. Got a set of 4 for my daily car (195 50 R15) for £128 delivered. Would recommend those for a 7 too.
Furyblade_Lee said:
Frankthered, Yoko 21R's are THE best roat tyres in my opinion, by far. BUT they are SO soft I get less than 3,000 miles from a set, and that is doing 1,500 miles of that on motorways! As soon as you hoon on them they wear out at a frightening rate. OK at £200 a set, but they are nearly £400 after delivery and fitting and I cannot affort that for larking about. I did discover Toyo T1-R is 195/55/14 at about £40 each so I am going to give them a try.
Thats a good recommendation! I really don't want the e marked semi slicks as1 I'm in Scotland!
2 More importantly, I think that if you drive an "interesting" car on the road then having a tyre that, whilst legal, on first viewing raises the hackels of traffic, well you have already started heading down a downward slope.
Add in the performance of even the smallest engined sevens-esk and all it takes is a bloody minded copper to spoil your driving experience for some considerable time.
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