360 buying and running costs
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I had mine for about 8 months - far too short a time really! - I had planned on keeping it longer so looked at things like servicing/clutch costs etc. and I have to say I pleasntly surprised.
I would steer clear of the main dealers as the ones I spoke to seemed dis-interested at best and completely unwilling to negotiate on servicing costs, I guess they obviously have far more important things to do than service a lowly old 360! It seems that servicing from a well know indi is accepted by most buyers now, so it won't have a detrimental effect on the re-sale price.
I ended up selling mine (for a fair amount more than I paid for it!) just before it needed its 18k service, so I only ever went as far as getting quotes and visitng a very good indi in my area. Over 5k miles the only thing I had to shell out on was a new set of tyres (£720 for all 4) and LOTS of fuel....it does enjoy a drink! On some Sunday morning spirited drives £80 lasted for about 120 miles! Having said that, driving more sedately saw things improve quite a lot.
I would whole heartedly recommend going to have a look at a few and having a drive in them; I think you'll find the build quality a little lacking compared to your Z4M, but IMO thats all part of the charm of an italian supercar.
I miss mine like crazy and would have another one in a heartbeat!
I would steer clear of the main dealers as the ones I spoke to seemed dis-interested at best and completely unwilling to negotiate on servicing costs, I guess they obviously have far more important things to do than service a lowly old 360! It seems that servicing from a well know indi is accepted by most buyers now, so it won't have a detrimental effect on the re-sale price.
I ended up selling mine (for a fair amount more than I paid for it!) just before it needed its 18k service, so I only ever went as far as getting quotes and visitng a very good indi in my area. Over 5k miles the only thing I had to shell out on was a new set of tyres (£720 for all 4) and LOTS of fuel....it does enjoy a drink! On some Sunday morning spirited drives £80 lasted for about 120 miles! Having said that, driving more sedately saw things improve quite a lot.
I would whole heartedly recommend going to have a look at a few and having a drive in them; I think you'll find the build quality a little lacking compared to your Z4M, but IMO thats all part of the charm of an italian supercar.
I miss mine like crazy and would have another one in a heartbeat!
Matc may I ask why you sold your? May help the OP here.
In my case, I sold the 360 after 4months and 10kmiles because even though it had been totally reliable, it never felt rock solid like the 993TT X50 I had before. The quality built was a little on the light side, cannot say the plastic bits and bobs aged well for a car around 9-10kmiles when I bought it (but 7yrs old), nor did the manual gearbox/engine/suspension felt it could take a couple track days. It felt FRAGILE, and I was not able to drive it stress free: always on the lookout for something to break, listening to the engine or any squeak.
It didn't, again it was a superb 10kmiles drive, lots of highway: did London Paris Avignon Monaco Route de Napoleon Paris London in 2.5wks but felt fragile.
Note: going back to Porsche, to a 997.1 GT3 RS which I know will be able to take any beating w/o me having to worry about anything
In my case, I sold the 360 after 4months and 10kmiles because even though it had been totally reliable, it never felt rock solid like the 993TT X50 I had before. The quality built was a little on the light side, cannot say the plastic bits and bobs aged well for a car around 9-10kmiles when I bought it (but 7yrs old), nor did the manual gearbox/engine/suspension felt it could take a couple track days. It felt FRAGILE, and I was not able to drive it stress free: always on the lookout for something to break, listening to the engine or any squeak.
It didn't, again it was a superb 10kmiles drive, lots of highway: did London Paris Avignon Monaco Route de Napoleon Paris London in 2.5wks but felt fragile.
Note: going back to Porsche, to a 997.1 GT3 RS which I know will be able to take any beating w/o me having to worry about anything
Edited by 911Thrasher on Monday 17th January 20:06
911Thrasher said:
Matc may I ask why you sold your? May help the OP here.
In my case, I sold the 360 after 4months and 10kmiles because even though it had been totally reliable, it never felt rock solid like the 993TT X50 I had before. The quality built was a little on the light side, cannot say the plastic bits and bobs aged well for a car around 9-10kmiles when I bought it (but 7yrs old), nor did the manual gearbox/engine/suspension felt it could take a couple track days. It felt FRAGILE, and I was not able to drive it stress free: always on the lookout for something to break, listening to the engine or any squeak.
It didn't, again it was a superb 10kmiles drive, lots of highway: did London Paris Avignon Monaco Route de Napoleon Paris London in 2.5wks but felt fragile.
Note: going back to Porsche, to a 997.1 GT3 RS which I know will be able to take any beating w/o me having to worry about anything
Sold mine for a couple of reasons, I only bought it with a view to keeping it for the summer as I don't have a garage and the car was living on the driveway, plus I was offered a fair amount more than I paid for it, so it was hard to refuse! Had I not been offered a decent amount for it I don't think I'd have been able to let it go!In my case, I sold the 360 after 4months and 10kmiles because even though it had been totally reliable, it never felt rock solid like the 993TT X50 I had before. The quality built was a little on the light side, cannot say the plastic bits and bobs aged well for a car around 9-10kmiles when I bought it (but 7yrs old), nor did the manual gearbox/engine/suspension felt it could take a couple track days. It felt FRAGILE, and I was not able to drive it stress free: always on the lookout for something to break, listening to the engine or any squeak.
It didn't, again it was a superb 10kmiles drive, lots of highway: did London Paris Avignon Monaco Route de Napoleon Paris London in 2.5wks but felt fragile.
Note: going back to Porsche, to a 997.1 GT3 RS which I know will be able to take any beating w/o me having to worry about anything
Edited by 911Thrasher on Monday 17th January 20:06
I also came from a Porsche, only a cayman but I would have to agree that the build quality was far superior to that of the Ferrari, but it did lack the drama of it and I think regardless of which model you went for the lack of soul compared to the Ferrari would still be evident! That said, I think a 997 gt3 is also next on my hit list, I loved the fact that I could thrash the Porsche every time I drove it and I didn't have to worry about it, I guess the fragility of the 360 did worry me, but it all added to the drama of driving it!
I think it really depends on what you want to use the car for, if it's purely a second car that will only be used on sunny days and early morning hoons then the Ferrari would be my choice, if you want something that is going to give you a little less hassle then I would suggest a Porsche of some flavour!
I had mine for a year. It was a manual and had an issue with the clutch hydraulics which was eventually repaired with the replacement of the clutch slave/bearing unit replacement.
The car felt beautifully constructed to me. I have had many Porsche before and after and the only one that has felt better was a 993. I cannot really understand the build concern issues highlighted by other posters. The sesnse of occasion of driving the car was at a different level to a Porsche. I compare a Ferrari to being a balerina- light nimble and agile vs a Porsche which feels more like a Heavyweight Boxer-each amazing in their own right but also very different forms of entertainment.
I sold mine as we were planning a move overseas and also had a young baby and so could not uset the car very much..
The car felt beautifully constructed to me. I have had many Porsche before and after and the only one that has felt better was a 993. I cannot really understand the build concern issues highlighted by other posters. The sesnse of occasion of driving the car was at a different level to a Porsche. I compare a Ferrari to being a balerina- light nimble and agile vs a Porsche which feels more like a Heavyweight Boxer-each amazing in their own right but also very different forms of entertainment.
I sold mine as we were planning a move overseas and also had a young baby and so could not uset the car very much..
You don't have to worry about Ferrari's build quality. Since the 456 Ferrari has made leaps and bounds and my 550 Maranello has been steadily reliable with 1 clutch issue in 20,000 miles.
The 360 is a great car. Personally I would steer clear of the F1 gearbox, as I hate the slippage in that older design. And driving it in heavy traffic will seriously reduce clutch life. Other than that, 360's are easy and cheap to run. A mate of mine has spent less than 1k in the past 4 years! Just don't cause damage, panels can be very difficult to get and are seriously expensive.
Onno
The 360 is a great car. Personally I would steer clear of the F1 gearbox, as I hate the slippage in that older design. And driving it in heavy traffic will seriously reduce clutch life. Other than that, 360's are easy and cheap to run. A mate of mine has spent less than 1k in the past 4 years! Just don't cause damage, panels can be very difficult to get and are seriously expensive.
Onno
JazzyO said:
A mate of mine has spent less than 1k in the past 4 years!
Just don't cause damage, panels can be very difficult to get and are seriously expensive.
Waow, I surely hope you meant less than 1k per year...service alone is more than £250 a year! I wouldn't want to be the buyer of your friend's car when the time comes if indeed he spent 1k£ in 4years.Just don't cause damage, panels can be very difficult to get and are seriously expensive.
As for panels and bumpers, yes they are extremely expensive, thin and fragile...I did both my front/rear bumpers in underground parkings: the clearance isn't good and when you scrap them, they crack easily and are gone!
Also the flat bottom in the front is only held w/ 6bolts to the front bumper and very much prone to cracks, which if happens let's the front of the flat bottom panel hang, and it gets worse.
A fun reliable car but w/ weak expensive points and fragile overall feel (IMO of course)
had three inc my CS. Costs are no different to most normal performance cars, after all you only have an engine, wheels, brakes etc. I've done over 50K in 3 360 variants over 5 years and the costs are negligible..have a look at our site www.supercarhub.com where you can get an idea of ongoing service costs, but realistically, a service can be as cheap as £400-£500 providing you stick to the schedules. Of course you'll need pads/disks from time to time, but in 50,000 miles, I've never replaced pads/disks or a clutch (must be my soft driving!!)
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