Sun rises two days early - in Greenland
Discussion
Magog said:
Remember all those animals are committing mass suicide as well... It's like something out of an M. Night Shyamalan film, maybe the Mayans were right, hope you're all stocked up on tinned food and shotgun cartridges.
So it will be a bit spooky but with poorly developed characters and a laughable plot?Sounds a batty explanation to me.
If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 17th January 08:30
Eric Mc said:
Sounds a batty explanation to me.
If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
If the place in question is on actual land but the area normally obscuring the sun is ice then it seems perfectly plausible to me. If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 17th January 08:30
Eric Mc said:
Sounds a batty explanation to me.
If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
That's exactly what I said to someone who told me it was proof of MMGW. Just shows that none of them have even a basic grasp of simple science.If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 17th January 08:30
We don't know the position of the observers nor what their "normal" view of the horizon should be to fully understand what the situation is.
Why would the ice on the horuizon line reduce at a different level to the ice they are standing on?
Is their horizon blocked by hills and mountains?
Were those hills and mountains so covered in ice and the ice loss has been so great in a year that the sun appeared TWO DAYS earlier than expected.
The whole report smacks of sloppy and inaccurate reporting - not to mention ignorance of basic knowledge about the nature of the Arctic daylight conditions.
Why would the ice on the horuizon line reduce at a different level to the ice they are standing on?
Is their horizon blocked by hills and mountains?
Were those hills and mountains so covered in ice and the ice loss has been so great in a year that the sun appeared TWO DAYS earlier than expected.
The whole report smacks of sloppy and inaccurate reporting - not to mention ignorance of basic knowledge about the nature of the Arctic daylight conditions.
Einion Yrth said:
Yup, this looks like twilight, not sunrise. Move along, nothing to see here.
My thoughts also, atmospheric refraction or similar affecting morning twilight not sunrise.ETA though of course refraction is pertinent to sunrise.
Very odd report.
Edited by turbobloke on Monday 17th January 11:31
Gun said:
Eric Mc said:
Sounds a batty explanation to me.
If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
That's exactly what I said to someone who told me it was proof of MMGW. Just shows that none of them have even a basic grasp of simple science.If the icecap is lower, then, to someone situated on the icecap, they would be lower too. That means, from their line of sight, the horizon would actually be slightly nearer - which means that the sun would appear to rise LATER, not earlier. We all know that the higher you are, the earlier you see the sun rise, or the later you see the sun set.
It is impossible for the sun to "rise" earlier or later than predicted, as that would imply that the earth had somehow changed its rotational speed unexpectedly - which it hasn't.
What they might be observing is some atmopspheric condition which is allowing SUNLIGHT to be refracted above the horizon sooner than it normally does. The sun itself will appear above the horizon at the normal, predicted time.
Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 17th January 08:30
ks to me! Magog said:
Remember all those animals are committing mass suicide as well... It's like something out of an M. Night Shyamalan film, maybe the Mayans were right, hope you're all stocked up on tinned food and shotgun cartridges.
The birds went on a bender and drank themselves to death / killed by fireworks / run over by cars - apparently.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/12170571
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15...
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Don't forget. When you are truthing. You must expose the fact mainstream media is going to try blame this change that is happening on climate change! We need to counter this. Get on it!
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