Freeview HD PVR's... Getting ready for F1
Freeview HD PVR's... Getting ready for F1
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Martin Keene

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10,889 posts

246 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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So, the F1 is going HD this year and I have been mulling over the best way to go about getting HD. I am about to tell BT where to stick the ccensoredp over priced service and thought that if I could get Sky broadband, phone and TV for not a lot more it might be worth considering.

Playing with their website says I can get TV, broadband and phone for £41.25 a month. This is with a HD box but no HD subscription, which still gets me the Freeview HD channels.

or...

I can buy a Freeview HD PVR and switch the phone and broadband to O2 at £20.84 a month. This has the bonus of not having a Sky dish attached to the house (pet hate of mine) and after 12 months, the box will have paid for itself.

I have narrowed the choice down to three boxes, but I am at a total loss to chose between them. The choices are:

1) TVonics DT5-HD500
2) Humax HDR-Fox T2
3) Philips HDT-8520

They all broadly do the same thing, and yet all have subtle differences, the TVonics for example has 2 x HDMI inputs, and the Humax a CAN slot.

So, I open this up to the PH massive, do anybody have any good or bad experiences of any of these boxes? A independant retailer (Plotloss?) with experience of all 3 would be great.

Thanks in advance.

furs307c

109 posts

218 months

Monday 17th January 2011
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A vote for the Humax here!! Its really easy to use, plenty enough storage, well built and looks nice!

OldSkoolRS

7,066 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th January 2011
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Another Humax vote here. smile

Martin Keene

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10,889 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Thanks guys. I am wary of the Humax because I bought a standard Humax digibox years ago after reading how great it was. I thought it was shocking, really clunky slow user interface and the EPG was next to usless.

Anybody got any experience of the other two?

Zad

12,934 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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You could always get a £70 HD TV decoder stick for your PC and record it to hard disk there.

LaFleur

319 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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We recently purchased an SD Humax system after sacking Sky. With the Sky boxes we had 5 in the space of two years and enough was enough. We were delighted with the way in which the Humax made the sky boxes look reliable, overjoyed at the waste of £130 on a device I would not give to the mother-in-law.

It is so bad I would never consider another Humax system again. It is very easy to use however.

Martin Keene

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246 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Zad said:
You could always get a £70 HD TV decoder stick for your PC and record it to hard disk there.
I didn't know that, thanks. Sadly was after the ability to watch it on the TV, the ability to record was a bonus.

telecat

8,528 posts

262 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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LaFleur said:
We recently purchased an SD Humax system after sacking Sky. With the Sky boxes we had 5 in the space of two years and enough was enough. We were delighted with the way in which the Humax made the sky boxes look reliable, overjoyed at the waste of £130 on a device I would not give to the mother-in-law.

It is so bad I would never consider another Humax system again. It is very easy to use however.
Sorry But I have 2 9200T and one 9150T Humax PVR's and they haven't missed a beat. They are the most reliable ones on the market with their feature set. I keep hearing about some that are considered more reliable but they don't have the EPG, Series Link and other features that make the Humax the simplest to use over a period of time. Yes like all PVR's a glitch caused by FREEVIEW two years ago did cock-up the boxes and slowed them down awfully. However HUMAX produced software for their existing boxes the 9150T and 9300T and also for the 9200T they had stopped selling over a year before!! I cannot see even many Japanese makers supporting their older products that well. You can even upgrade them. One of my 9200's has a 500GB SATA drive using a SATA to IDE convertor. I never run out of disk these days. There is even a forum for users that have problems or need advice. www.hummy.tv. They are certainly reliable and well supported. I would hesitate buying a PVR from anybody else.

Edited by telecat on Thursday 20th January 13:03

Sonic

4,008 posts

228 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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I've always been put off the PVR's not having more than a 1TB disk.

It looks easy enough to buy a Humax HDR-FOX T2 and install a 2TB disk though, so will be giving it a go.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Another happy Humax user here. 9200T going 4 years without issue, and just got a Foxsat-HDR for the F1 (no Freeview HD in N. Ireland until 2012).

telecat

8,528 posts

262 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Sonic said:
I've always been put off the PVR's not having more than a 1TB disk.

It looks easy enough to buy a Humax HDR-FOX T2 and install a 2TB disk though, so will be giving it a go.
I have a 500GB disk and it rarely gets beyond 60% full so I wouldn't worry about 1TB. The 2TB may well be the limit as disks above that size use a different block size that I don't think is compatible (at the moment) with any PVR.

Glosphil

4,744 posts

255 months

Saturday 22nd January 2011
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I have a Humax 9300T that has been totally reliable. Most of my friends seem to have digi-boxes that lock-up or lose recordings or both. My Humax has never missed a beat, has a reasonable EPG with a useful search function and even my wife can use it after minimal instruction. My 9300T was purchased direct from Humax with a one-year warranty for £120 - baragin.

Now that I have a television that can display and receive HD I intend to upgrade to the the relevant model of Humax. My 9300T will then be given to my father-in-law ro replace his Inverto on which the EPG stopped working last July and nothing is being done to provide a replacement. The Inverto locks up regularly and often loses recordings.

Ranger 6

7,524 posts

270 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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I dragged this one up as I'm also looking for a Freeview HD PVR with a DVD recorder. I'm the sort that would think of sata as a misspelt asian peanut sauce so the Panasonic DMR-XW380 would be my target purchase.
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/DVD...

So for the luddites out here is that any good?


Mr Pointy

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180 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Megaflow

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246 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Thanks guys.

I have decided to sit tight for a while. Research shows that they have only been available for less than 12 months, some units have software bugs and I believe there will be more units release this year, Argos for example are listing a Sony PVR in their new catalogue.

Hopefully another 6 months will see some of the bugs fixed, somemore competition and lower prices.

It's not like I can't watch it in normal definition...

Zad

12,934 posts

257 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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PC USB tuner stick it is then, for now hehe

telecat

8,528 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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To Be honest the Market is settled. The Sony is either going to be a re-badged Vestel or TVonics unit so will not dent the market that much. The choice at this time is either the DigitalStream or the Humax. Both use a similar chipset and have recent updates that seem to make them the class of the field.
As for the Panasonic DVD/Blu-Ray HDD recorders. The drawback is the price. The Humax is £275 for a 500GB unit whereas the Panasonic's are over £500 and only just have included a 500GB disk for that price.

Ranger 6

7,524 posts

270 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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telecat said:
...As for the Panasonic DVD/Blu-Ray HDD recorders. The drawback is the price. The Humax is £275 for a 500GB unit whereas the Panasonic's are over £500 and only just have included a 500GB disk for that price.
Huh? The current Panasonic Freeview HD machine is 250gb and can be bought for £380.

So what's this £500 500gb Panasonic you speak of?

telecat

8,528 posts

262 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Ranger 6 said:
Huh? The current Panasonic Freeview HD machine is 250gb and can be bought for £380.

So what's this £500 500gb Panasonic you speak of?
It's the one with the Blu-Ray so you can archive at HD and it's the Panasonic DMRBW880EBK. Cheapest I've seen is £611

The slightly worse DMR780 is £450 plus with a 250GB Hard drive

The DMR-XW380 is probably the one you are thinking of at £380-ish but it only has a DVD recorder so you cannot archive at HD quality. And at that price with that spec it is still a bit pricey.


Ranger 6

7,524 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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[quote=Ranger 6, earlier in the thread,]....looking for a Freeview HD PVR with a DVD recorder......so the Panasonic DMR-XW380 would be my target purchase....
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[quote=telecat]The DMR-XW380 is probably the one you are thinking of.....at that price with that spec it is still a bit pricey....
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Yes, but is it any good? i.e. does anyone with ownership experience have an opinion, rather than a guess from a spec sheet and a price?