Rally shots :)

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docevi1

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Sunday 25th April 2004
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I went up to a Rally today (or is that yesterday now) and took some pictures. It's the first time I've ever tried to take some proper shots and I'm very pleased with the results for a first effort.

I noticed that idealy I could do with a longer optical zoom, and higher aperture settings would make it easier but it's all good

this is the album, filtered down from several hundred shots

Now that I've figured out "how" to take the shots, may I ask how to better compose them? Have I "accidently" taken any shots which are correctly composed (I say accidently as it was planned, but maybe not expected )? Where I was didn't have any corners (so thats a first improvement) and I was having difficulty getting the whole car in view (until I changed to multi-shot).

Shots like this one appeal to me (if I'd had the whole car in frame that is)...

Any ideas? Constructive opinions?

docevi1

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Sunday 25th April 2004
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oh and yes, I have the photography bug (albeit it slightly diminshed in some areas )

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

252 months

Sunday 25th April 2004
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U really have a sudden fetish for photos dont you.

docevi1

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Sunday 25th April 2004
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nope just a new website

incidently, I've just spotted 2 shots where are over-exposed and out of focus - they shouldn't be online but I missed them in the deleting process.

>> Edited by docevi1 on Sunday 25th April 12:51

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 25th April 2004
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Again, after my attempts at photographing a single venue rally a few weeks ago, I'm not in much of a position to comment on the technical aspects of the photographs.

However, knowing the Pirelli Rally up in Kielder, I would say that there are many different places on different stages to give a bit of variety. If I've got the right stage in mind (can't remember the name) that the photographs are from, there's even some different viewpoints further down the stage where it drops into the forest.

And it's no hardship driving between different stages around Kielder, the roads are fabulous (I used to live all of about 30 minutes fabulous drive North of Kilder )

docevi1

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Sunday 25th April 2004
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The stage is the one just of Walk, Chirdonhead is it's name.

The problem was is we arrived just as the stage started, and the place were you were expected to spectate was full of family spectators. We walked a good mile into the stage from there and got the to the "open" area.

Variety would be good, and I admit the background is boring, but are the shots good with a different background?

simpo two

85,834 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th April 2004
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Heh, you're a glutton for punishment!

I think you've done as well as you reasonably could have. The shot you highlight is/would have been the best I think - apart from the crop!

The only creative suggestion I can make is to try head-on shots using max aperture for shallow DOF, and prefocus so that you don't have to rely on AF. (Even predictive AF seems a bit iffy unless you have a relaly serious camera!) Oh yes, then position yourself to catch them yumping!

It's not easy, you'll get loads of nearlies, but hopefully a few good 'uns.

docevi1

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Sunday 25th April 2004
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simpo two said:
Heh, you're a glutton for punishment!


This time I'm asking for advice and I want these shots to be better, but want advice Life couldn't get much worse anyway.

simpo two said:
I think you've done as well as you reasonably could have. The shot you highlight is/would have been the best I think - apart from the crop!

Thank you

simpo two said:
The only creative suggestion I can make is to try head-on shots using max aperture for shallow DOF, and prefocus so that you don't have to rely on AF. (Even predictive AF seems a bit iffy unless you have a relaly serious camera!) Oh yes, then position yourself to catch them yumping!


Whats AF please?

I had the camera on manual, with the aperture at 8 (my max), the shutter speed about 1/300th but messed about a bit and manually focused at infinity (0-50cms, 1-5m, infinity choices).

Thanks for the comments, next time I plan to get somewhere better for the background

simpo two

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Monday 26th April 2004
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docevi1 said:
Whats AF please?

Sorry, autofocus.

docevi1 said:
I had the camera on manual, with the aperture at 8 (my max), the shutter speed about 1/300th but messed about a bit and manually focused at infinity (0-50cms, 1-5m, infinity choices).


Sounds like your hardware is a bit limiting for what you're trying to do. What camera is it? To do this kind of stuff an SLR is better: it will give you so much more power and control.

docevi1

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Monday 26th April 2004
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I have a canon A70, it was an upgrade from a Fuji A202 as I'm on a limited budget and this seemed the best between the "snap pictures" and carrying it in my pocket and a little bit more control.

An SLR would be ideal, but I simply can't afford one (it'd have to be digital as I wouldn't take pics with film).

simpo two

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Monday 26th April 2004
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docevi1 said:
I have a canon A70, it was an upgrade from a Fuji A202 as I'm on a limited budget and this seemed the best between the "snap pictures" and carrying it in my pocket and a little bit more control.

An SLR would be ideal, but I simply can't afford one (it'd have to be digital as I wouldn't take pics with film).


By coincidence I was trying to take some pics of my new cat today. For immediacy I started with the 'toy' Olympus Mju300 - but for a fast-moving subject like a cat, forget it. By the time it's focussed and guessed the exposure, the cat's moved or gone. Many good shots are lost like this. So I got the Nikon SLR and 75-300 lens out - OK so it's film - but what a joy to use by contrast! Fast AF that's right every time, fill-in flash that's right every time, plenty of zoom, the shutter fires when you press the button... that's what you need unless the subject is nailed down!

docevi1

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Monday 26th April 2004
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it is something I'm thinking about for sure, but I don't want the expense so it will be have to be digital and they are too expensive at the moment.

I'll learn the craft on my canon (which I'm happy with) and then think about upgrading again to something better...

The Canon I have has full manual control so is quite quick to take the pictures - no delay, which is making me happy, it's just a shame the lens has f8 as a max, I can get fit on lenses but at £80+ it's a bit pricey.