Frameless skylights
Discussion
stu67 said:
Try glazing vision in suffolk, they have a website. i've just bought 2 no 2m by 1m and a 1m by 1m, think it cost about 3k the lot. When I phoned them up the prices quoted were cheaper than the website think around 20% but don't know if that was a promotion.
Will give them a buzz, thanksandrews said:
I also really like this design and have a opening of 5m x 2m that I want a skylight for. At the moment all I can really find are conservatory type roof lanterns but want something more contemporary and model. If anyone knows of a supplier, please let me know!
Indeed, I can't stand those mini conservatories hideous things.mk1fan said:
Structural glass is ££££££. £900 a sq m is the estimating rate I use when putting budgets together.
You may get a deal if you agree for them to use it in their advertising?
Sounds about right I suppose.You may get a deal if you agree for them to use it in their advertising?
This is where the photo is from
http://www.visionrooflights.co.uk/frameless_roofli...
But as prices are thin on the ground when perusing websites, I was hoping for some better options.
mk1fan said:
andrews said:
Mine isn't structural,
You misunderstand the reference.Here's the plan.
dirty boy said:
Quick question MK, would the skylight i've shown require steel to support it? Not that it's a problem as they're only £100-£150 a pop, just wondered. My architect is a bit slow responding!
Here's the plan.
Breaking it down;Here's the plan.
The opening through the roof will need to structurally sound to carry the weight and imposed load of the skylight. This may just be the doubling up of the joists either side of the opening and double noggin/trimmer peices the remaining two sides.
The skylight itself needs to be structurally sound to support it's self weight (frame, glazing, weatherings etc...) and also to support imposed loads like wind and snow (these would depend on the property location and it's orientation within it's surroundings). It also needs to be structurally sound to protect from falling - which is the hard part for frameless systems). ie, if you were clearing leaves off the roof, slipped and fell against it. The roof light shouldn't collapse sending you through it to the floor below. Further to those, there are thermal and security performace requirements too.
It's easier [therefore cheaper) for framed skylights to meet the above standards. Although, you should be able to get a frameless rooflight for it. It's just going to be £££.
Does that help??
Edited by mk1fan on Friday 21st January 11:27
mk1fan said:
dirty boy said:
Quick question MK, would the skylight i've shown require steel to support it? Not that it's a problem as they're only £100-£150 a pop, just wondered. My architect is a bit slow responding!
Here's the plan.
Breaking it down;Here's the plan.
The opening through the roof will need to structurally sound to carry the weight and imposed load of the skylight. This may just be the doubling up of the joists either side of the opening and double noggin/trimmer peices the remaining two sides.
The skylight itself needs to be structurally sound to support it's self weight (frame, glazing, weatherings etc...) and also to support imposed loads like wind and snow (these would depend on the property location and it's orientation within it's surroundings). It also needs to be structurally sound to protect from falling - which is the hard part for frameless systems). ie, if you were clearing leaves off the roof, slipped and fell against it. The roof light shouldn't collapse sending you through it to the floor below. Further to those, there are thermal and security performace requirements too.
It's easier [therefore cheaper) for framed skylights to meet the above standards. Although, you should be able to get a frameless rooflight for it. It's just going to be £££.
Does that help??
Edited by mk1fan on Friday 21st January 11:27
I think I may as well just put steels in to support it, makes sense, i'd probably feel more comfortable with that, rather than doubled up joists.
The roof light must surely be safe and meet standard requirements, but its something i'll have to make sure of.
Cheers
You are wise to go down the steel route.
I have on my last project installed the very same Kitchen Lantern.
I'll post up some photo's over the weekend when I have access to them.
Glazing Vision were the kiddies for the above and a real pleasure to work with, unlike the complete w
kers who fabricated my glass bridge and walk on glazed panel. I wont name and shame but in all my years at this game they were by far the worst people to deal with.
I have on my last project installed the very same Kitchen Lantern.
I'll post up some photo's over the weekend when I have access to them.
Glazing Vision were the kiddies for the above and a real pleasure to work with, unlike the complete w
kers who fabricated my glass bridge and walk on glazed panel. I wont name and shame but in all my years at this game they were by far the worst people to deal with.dirty boy said:
I think I may as well just put steels in to support it, makes sense, i'd probably feel more comfortable with that, rather than doubled up joists.
The roof light must surely be safe and meet standard requirements, but its something i'll have to make sure of.
Cheers
No probs.The roof light must surely be safe and meet standard requirements, but its something i'll have to make sure of.
Cheers
Never assume something like that meets standards.
Looking at your plan running steel beams in the ceiling may be a bit problematic. On the 5.4M wide bit one beam will bear on the corner of a window opening. If they span the other way (6M wide) then they bear over a window. Timber should be more than sufficient - unless the rooflight is going to be a mahoosively big item.
The structural design of the roof should have included for the opening - assuming it's not an 'add-on'.
To be honest I'd need to know a lot more about the job before suggesting one over the other.
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