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Hi guys,
As it was a nice sunny day on saturday, my mate decided to have a barby. Took the cerb round there to be flash in front of the ladies and parked round the back of his garden in a garage area. Half an hour later my mate said "is that your alarm going off?" Went out the back expecting kids to be playing football near it and it WAS'NT there!!!! It had rolled 15 foot down the road into a wall!!
It Cracked around the headlight conversion and put a nasty scuff on the corner! I know now why everyone says to leave it in gear and point the wheels into the kerb. The exact same thing happen to my mate last year with his tuscun, it rolled down a drive and ended up arse end in a ditch!! I know its hard to say without looking at it to get a quote, but any ideas anyone???
As it was a nice sunny day on saturday, my mate decided to have a barby. Took the cerb round there to be flash in front of the ladies and parked round the back of his garden in a garage area. Half an hour later my mate said "is that your alarm going off?" Went out the back expecting kids to be playing football near it and it WAS'NT there!!!! It had rolled 15 foot down the road into a wall!!
It Cracked around the headlight conversion and put a nasty scuff on the corner! I know now why everyone says to leave it in gear and point the wheels into the kerb. The exact same thing happen to my mate last year with his tuscun, it rolled down a drive and ended up arse end in a ditch!! I know its hard to say without looking at it to get a quote, but any ideas anyone???
Sorry to hear that. 
Pure guess based on the minor damage mine had, about £500.
Give Ewelme Coachworks a call - Paddy used them for his light conversion, as did I for my repair.
Pure guess based on the minor damage mine had, about £500.
Give Ewelme Coachworks a call - Paddy used them for his light conversion, as did I for my repair.
Sorry to hear that.
I played hell with my wife once for not putting the hand brake on properly in a vectra we had. The car rolled down the road slightly, but didn't do any damage. Guess what. I did the same a week later, the car damaged another car. The worse bit was the flack I got from my better half.
I always park the cerb in gear...as we all know the handbrake can sometimes be w**k.
I played hell with my wife once for not putting the hand brake on properly in a vectra we had. The car rolled down the road slightly, but didn't do any damage. Guess what. I did the same a week later, the car damaged another car. The worse bit was the flack I got from my better half.
I always park the cerb in gear...as we all know the handbrake can sometimes be w**k.
...//P//It's not necessarily a 'weak' handbrake...
Did this once in my Griffith, 'caught' it from rolling down the slope parked at Hawthorns, nearly taking out two tuscans....
Caused parked when disc brakes were hot(ie expanded slightly), after about 20 mins there, saw the car start to move, as discs had cooled (strung slightly), so brake had slightly less force applied.
Leave ALL cars in gear on a slope.
B
Did this once in my Griffith, 'caught' it from rolling down the slope parked at Hawthorns, nearly taking out two tuscans....
Caused parked when disc brakes were hot(ie expanded slightly), after about 20 mins there, saw the car start to move, as discs had cooled (strung slightly), so brake had slightly less force applied.
Leave ALL cars in gear on a slope.
B
bjwoods said:
It's not necessarily a 'weak' handbrake...
Did this once in my Griffith, 'caught' it from rolling down the slope parked at Hawthorns, nearly taking out two tuscans....
Caused parked when disc brakes were hot(ie expanded slightly), after about 20 mins there, saw the car start to move, as discs had cooled (strung slightly), so brake had slightly less force applied.
Leave ALL cars in gear on a slope.
B
This doesn't make sense. I thought the handbrake used a separate braking mechanism to the normal brakes? I thought that was the whole point of it, as a back up system in case the main brakes failed? Oh, and for going around corners quickly too
arcbeer said:
bjwoods said:
It's not necessarily a 'weak' handbrake...
Did this once in my Griffith, 'caught' it from rolling down the slope parked at Hawthorns, nearly taking out two tuscans....
Caused parked when disc brakes were hot(ie expanded slightly), after about 20 mins there, saw the car start to move, as discs had cooled (strung slightly), so brake had slightly less force applied.
Leave ALL cars in gear on a slope.
B
This doesn't make sense. I thought the handbrake used a separate braking mechanism to the normal brakes? I thought that was the whole point of it, as a back up system in case the main brakes failed? Oh, and for going around corners quickly too
I think it has to be a separate system for activating rather than separate discs - main brakes are hydralic and handbrake is mechanical. Back up in the case of hydralic failure. Reason why competition hydralic handbrakes are illegal on a road car (or have to be on an totally separate hydralic system).
>> Edited by Buster4.2 on Tuesday 27th April 13:31
olly said:
Rear brake (when operated by foot) are the rear disks.
Rear brake (when using the handbrake) are a drum inside the brake disk. So heat generated in the disk in normal road driving is still in the same disk which is used as the drum for the hand brake (does that make sense ?)
That's along the lines I was thinking. Could the drum really expand that much to cause this? I can understand the disc expanding where it has contact with the pads but less so the drum. Still could well be talking out of my a
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The handbrake on my Cerbera might as well not be there for what use it is.
The heat and the drum thing from past experience the drum heats up and expands more than the brake shoes so when it cools you usually have the oposite effect and can not get the brake off, for example the brake shoes are in a fixed position by a machanical cam the drum cools and tightens on the shoes. It should not happen the other way.
I am not sure what system the Cerbera uses but I think its some sort of drum thing located on the drive train and does not use the calipars at all, but then again I may be talking out of my a**!
Jools have you an answer?
Paul
The heat and the drum thing from past experience the drum heats up and expands more than the brake shoes so when it cools you usually have the oposite effect and can not get the brake off, for example the brake shoes are in a fixed position by a machanical cam the drum cools and tightens on the shoes. It should not happen the other way.
I am not sure what system the Cerbera uses but I think its some sort of drum thing located on the drive train and does not use the calipars at all, but then again I may be talking out of my a**!
Jools have you an answer?
Paul
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