Priority Policing RANT (not speeding) - LOSERS !
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Can't bloody believe it.!!! 
Recently (2 weeks ago) I had some odd orders on my Silver Jewellery website; for three in particular the chain of events was as follows:
Order 1. £80 odd of silver jewellery to an address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Goods despatched.
a week later:
Order 2. £80 odd of silver jewellery to the same name and address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Goods despatched.
later the same day:
Order 3. £150 odd of silver jewellery to the same address in Grenwich, but a different Name, paid by switch.
Alarm bells started ringing, and this all didn't seem right. Eventually to cut a long story short, having tracked down the first two orders actual Cardholder, it was stolen and he'd reported his card as stolen that day. I then spoke to Scotland yard who put me on to the police station in Grenwich to explain that goods had been obtained by deception twice, and that the details were deifinitely fraudulent giving them the crime number of the card report by the cardholder
Critically, this was around 5.30pm and I had already had Order 2 depstched via the post office so could not get it back. However I use Royal Mail special delivery - guaranteed before 9.00am, accordingly the parcel was going to be signed for and accepted the following morning at the address in Grenwich when postie called before 9.
I gave all this information to Grenwich police station who seemed fairly interested and said someone would ring me back the following day. As I had given them all the info I guessed this would be an easy job for them to turn up the following day and nick the scrote.
next day i got a phonecall around 11am giving me a crime number.. I asked if they had made an arrest, to be told that they "would find out and get back to me".
Suffice to say I rang them up this morning (10 days later) having heard nothing, to find out what was going on.
I have been told this morning, that "this type of crime is low priority across the borough and we wouldn't have made any further enquiries" ...they did sod all basically.
I said to the woman at the crime desk "so basically I wasted my time then.." to which she didn't argue.
What is the country coming to.. I gave them EVERY bit of information they needed to make an easy arrest of some lowlife scum and they didn't do it, as it was LOW PRIORITY...
... it wasn't sodding low prioritiy to me..
RANT OVER (but still fuming)
>>> Edited by M@H on Monday 26th April 10:59
Recently (2 weeks ago) I had some odd orders on my Silver Jewellery website; for three in particular the chain of events was as follows:
Order 1. £80 odd of silver jewellery to an address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Goods despatched.
a week later:
Order 2. £80 odd of silver jewellery to the same name and address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Goods despatched.
later the same day:
Order 3. £150 odd of silver jewellery to the same address in Grenwich, but a different Name, paid by switch.
Alarm bells started ringing, and this all didn't seem right. Eventually to cut a long story short, having tracked down the first two orders actual Cardholder, it was stolen and he'd reported his card as stolen that day. I then spoke to Scotland yard who put me on to the police station in Grenwich to explain that goods had been obtained by deception twice, and that the details were deifinitely fraudulent giving them the crime number of the card report by the cardholder
Critically, this was around 5.30pm and I had already had Order 2 depstched via the post office so could not get it back. However I use Royal Mail special delivery - guaranteed before 9.00am, accordingly the parcel was going to be signed for and accepted the following morning at the address in Grenwich when postie called before 9.
I gave all this information to Grenwich police station who seemed fairly interested and said someone would ring me back the following day. As I had given them all the info I guessed this would be an easy job for them to turn up the following day and nick the scrote.
next day i got a phonecall around 11am giving me a crime number.. I asked if they had made an arrest, to be told that they "would find out and get back to me".
Suffice to say I rang them up this morning (10 days later) having heard nothing, to find out what was going on.
I have been told this morning, that "this type of crime is low priority across the borough and we wouldn't have made any further enquiries" ...they did sod all basically.
I said to the woman at the crime desk "so basically I wasted my time then.." to which she didn't argue.
What is the country coming to.. I gave them EVERY bit of information they needed to make an easy arrest of some lowlife scum and they didn't do it, as it was LOW PRIORITY...
... it wasn't sodding low prioritiy to me..
RANT OVER (but still fuming)
>>> Edited by M@H on Monday 26th April 10:59
M@H said:
Order 1. £80 odd of silver jewellery to an address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Godds despatched.
I can believe the police doing that. However did dispatching the Godds not help?
Still it's only money. (Blew my engine at the weekend so feel justified to poke fun...sorry)
Can you not write to the address and say you have a special offer on. As they have purchesed stuff before would they like to take advantage of this offer etc etc. Place inside the packeage something totally revolting (rabbits guts/brains etc)....
Munter said:
M@H said:
Order 1. £80 odd of silver jewellery to an address in Grenwich, paid by switch. Godds despatched.
I can believe the police doing that. However did dispatching the Godds not help?
...
..thanks for that.. well the Gods would have been more use then the police thats for sure 
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 26th April 10:23
M@H said:
Can't bloody believe it.!!!
What is the country coming to.. I gave them EVERY bit of information they needed to make an easy arrest of some lowlife scum and they didn't do it, as it was LOW PRIORITY...
... it wasn't sodding low prioritiy to me..
RANT OVER (but still fuming)
Nor are the hundreds of thousands of calls which are taken by the Police Service all over the country.
Everyone who calls has a vested high priority interest in their problem being put to the top of the list and dealt with immediately.
I read in the Mail on Sunday' yesterday of a chap knocked off his scooter by a portuguese national whom the Police tracked down the following day but did not arrest for any offences. They arranged to have him attend the Police station a week or so later to be interviewed and 'blow me down with a feather' he went back to Portugal and it is now too expensive to deal with him.
This chap told the mail who asked the reasons for not dealing with it immediately. They were told that problems arose with obtaining an interpreter for interview. The mail stated they got one in 5 minutes from yellow pages.
The mail do not understand that there was
1. probably no power to arrest
2. Interpreters have to be vetted and approved, not just obtained via yellow pages in case they are criminal themsleves and tell the accused person the wrong stuff.
So another example of someones priority not being dealt with.
Unfortunately there are many thousands of crimes reported daily to all forces. There are not many thousands of Police officers to go and arrets the offenders immediately the information comes in.
Many Police officers are running around wiping the arses of people that cannot conduct their lives in a decent fashion and all the other crap that is thrown in the direction of the now Politically correct Social service of England and Wales (another article in the 'Mail on Sunday' which was 100% correct)
Is it any wonder 'your priority' is not a Policing Priority
?gone said:
Is it any wonder 'your priority' is not a Policing Priority
No wonder really as nothing suprises me any more..
I must remember to only be a victim of a crime that is well up the priority scale.. Given the circumstances, and the fact that this address was being used for multiple credit card frauds for thousands of pounds, given the information I had provided I would have thought they would have been able to send someone around... or even phone up the sorting office and get then to let them know when postie was going to call perhaps, so as to not waste time hanging about..?
I'm certain there would have been plenty of "power to arrest" in this instance too as I suspect the postman was calling a lot with parcels..
Cheers,
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 26th April 10:50
chim450 said:
Are you liable for money spent on your Switch card, even if you have reported it stolen? I know most credit cards are covered for this sort of thing but don't know whether Switch is the same?
In most instances (all I am aware of) the money is finally recovered by the bank from the trader who processed the transaction.... i.e. me
gone said:
Can't bloody believe it.!!!
What is the country coming to.. I gave them EVERY bit of information they needed to make an easy arrest of some lowlife scum and they didn't do it, as it was LOW PRIORITY...
... it wasn't sodding low prioritiy to me..
RANT OVER (but still fuming)
Nor are the hundreds of thousands of calls which are taken by the Police Service all over the country.
Everyone who calls has a vested high priority interest in their problem being put to the top of the list and dealt with immediately.
I read in the Mail on Sunday' yesterday of a chap knocked off his scooter by a portuguese national whom the Police tracked down the following day but did not arrest for any offences. They arranged to have him attend the Police station a week or so later to be interviewed and 'blow me down with a feather' he went back to Portugal and it is now too expensive to deal with him.
This chap told the mail who asked the reasons for not dealing with it immediately. They were told that problems arose with obtaining an interpreter for interview. The mail stated they got one in 5 minutes from yellow pages.
The mail do not understand that there was
1. probably no power to arrest
2. Interpreters have to be vetted and approved, not just obtained via yellow pages in case they are criminal themsleves and tell the accused person the wrong stuff.
So another example of someones priority not being dealt with.
Unfortunately there are many thousands of crimes reported daily to all forces. There are not many thousands of Police officers to go and arrets the offenders immediately the information comes in.
Many Police officers are running around wiping the arses of people that cannot conduct their lives in a decent fashion and all the other crap that is thrown in the direction of the now Politically correct Social service of England and Wales (another article in the 'Mail on Sunday' which was 100% correct)
Is it any wonder 'your priority' is not a Policing Priority
My word, you really wind me up. I had to prevent myself posting to another thread after reading some of your posts because I didn't trust myself not to be rude.
Regardless, instead of blindly jumping to the defence of police officers every time someone has a seemingly valid complaint perhaps you should accept that police officers are not 100% perfect and just the poor, innocent victims of government bureacracy and public stupidity. I think we have seen enough video footage of police officers standing by while a man dies on the floor next to them and seen enough reports of forged confessions and planted evidence to know that the police are a long, long way from being perfect.
I can really understand why the police service is becoming hated by ordinary members of the public when I read the posts on here about them doing nothing when a crime is committed. I didn't even bother reporting the guy who tried to mug me because I knew there was no point.
Welcome to the 21st century, by the end of which laws will be blindlyand totally enforced by automatons with the excuse, "We don't make the rules, we just enforce thenm!" So that's OK then.
PetrolTed said:
What if gone's got a point though? What if so much of their time is spent dealing with the systems in place to protect crims from getting a kicking that they don't have time to do any policing?
Just beacuse thats the case, it doesn't make it right though does it Ted..? ..this is the only time I've ever had need to bother the police with anything in the last 10 years at least so my impression as a normal working class taxpayer aint great.
Sorry to hear about this.
I know exactly what you mean, being a poor schmuck who's lost a couple of exotic cars' worth of kit in this manner over the years.
We only ever got one bastard arrested who did this: turned out to be an airline pilot who with no previous but who fancied his chances during a house move (ffs!)
Like having your car broken into or nicked, it's just another endemic part of our diseased society that people are simply numb to.
It's not the police's fault, of course, as per usual: it's the woolly brained tossers who have managed to derail the place since the 60s that mysteriously seem to control everything who need deposing.
Well done Mr.Liberal.
I know exactly what you mean, being a poor schmuck who's lost a couple of exotic cars' worth of kit in this manner over the years.
We only ever got one bastard arrested who did this: turned out to be an airline pilot who with no previous but who fancied his chances during a house move (ffs!
) Like having your car broken into or nicked, it's just another endemic part of our diseased society that people are simply numb to.
It's not the police's fault, of course, as per usual: it's the woolly brained tossers who have managed to derail the place since the 60s that mysteriously seem to control everything who need deposing.
Well done Mr.Liberal.
Makes me sick, stories like this.
Wasn't it the mayor of New York who said that you have to start hard on the small stuff and that will gradually stop scroats from progressing onto bigger stuff? I think the analogy he used was broken windows in an empty building. As soon as one pane is smashed, the building looks uncared for, so kids move in and smash another and another etc... Whereas if the 1st is fixed straight away, the rest remain intact for some time with no need for intervention.
If the authorities were to crack down on petty theft, muggings etc and prosecute the offenders, pretty soon the word would go around and many newbie crims would think twice about progressing onto bigger stuff. Trouble is, the police (or rather, their paymasters) decide to only concentrate on the "bigger stuff" (must...not..mention...speeding) which leads to a situation where more and more scroats progress to this level in an endless cycle.
You'd have thought that in M@H's situation, the Greenwich bib would have welcomed the chance of an easy "kill" to improve their statistics. But no
Wasn't it the mayor of New York who said that you have to start hard on the small stuff and that will gradually stop scroats from progressing onto bigger stuff? I think the analogy he used was broken windows in an empty building. As soon as one pane is smashed, the building looks uncared for, so kids move in and smash another and another etc... Whereas if the 1st is fixed straight away, the rest remain intact for some time with no need for intervention.
If the authorities were to crack down on petty theft, muggings etc and prosecute the offenders, pretty soon the word would go around and many newbie crims would think twice about progressing onto bigger stuff. Trouble is, the police (or rather, their paymasters) decide to only concentrate on the "bigger stuff" (must...not..mention...speeding) which leads to a situation where more and more scroats progress to this level in an endless cycle.
You'd have thought that in M@H's situation, the Greenwich bib would have welcomed the chance of an easy "kill" to improve their statistics. But no
gone said:
What is the country coming to.. I gave them EVERY bit of information they needed to make an easy arrest of some lowlife scum and they didn't do it, as it was LOW PRIORITY...
Nor are the hundreds of thousands of calls which are taken by the Police Service all over the country.
Everyone who calls has a vested high priority interest in their problem being put to the top of the list and dealt with immediately.
Indeed they do. It's called "being a taxpayer". It's called "paying for a service which is not being provided". If a private company took the money and didn't provide the service, they would be prosecuted, or go out of business, and rightly so. Taking the money and not providing the service is "deception", isn't it?
derestrictor said:Spot on, Der.
It's not the police's fault, of course, as per usual: it's the woolly brained tossers who have managed to derail the place since the 60s that mysteriously seem to control everything who need deposing.
Well done Mr.Liberal.
Matt - sorry to hear about this.. blame HMG though, not plod.
Can you not insure against this sort of loss?
CarZee said:
Matt - sorry to hear about this.. blame HMG though, not plod.
Can you not insure against this sort of loss?
It is possible but as its just a hobby of sorts its not viable with my really low turnover, you'd pay an extra 1% per transaction and a £25 a month fee. Considering an average month is probably around £80-£100 of goods shipped (so "profit" of about £30-£40 ish) its a close call financially.
I'm not so bothered about the financial loss.. its only money
..its just the fact that the police did nothing about it and didn't seem to care.. despite it being HMG's fault, the police are their shop window. Of course if I'd gone round with some of my brothers more scarey mates for some proper justice the police would have been there immediately Cheers
Matt
>> Edited by M@H on Monday 26th April 12:07
CarZee said:
Can you not insure against this sort of loss?
You can but you might as well ask Vlad Dracul round for a barbeque and ask him if he wouldn't mind twirling the spit...
Our insurance protection is now reminescent of the Loch Ness monster: no matter how much I'd like it to exist - it doesn't.
PetrolTed said:
What if gone's got a point though? What if so much of their time is spent dealing with the systems in place to protect crims from getting a kicking that they don't have time to do any policing?
I think gone does have a point. However, as my post infers, I am constantly seeing him blindly jump to the defence of the police when they are clearly not doing their job and that's what I'm complaining about. A balanced view point would do more credit to both him and the police force in general.
I know that you have to be careful about police offers being abused on these forums, but I hope am I just making a valid point rather than indulging in the mindless police-bashing that I have seen on occasion.
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