Politicians - As they should be!
Politicians - As they should be!
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Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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A few tidbits on Harry Truman. Yes, things change, but we could stand some of this today:


"Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many, or more important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 42 Presidents preceding him. However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he left the White House.


The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri . His wife had inherited the house from her mother and father and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.


When he retired from office in 1952, his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year.


After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There was no Secret Service following them.


When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."


Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."


As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.


Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Political offices are now for sale. (sic. Illinois )


Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a we house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!


I say dig him up and clone him!!"

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I have a sneaking regard for Eisenhower too.

After him, they all became image and legacy fixated - with the possible exceoption of Johnson who, unfortunately for him, was saddled with an impossible war.

M3333

2,347 posts

244 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I watched a programme on Truman once - that sums him up very well. A real gentleman not interested in the wealth and power politics could offer him but interested in serving the people whom elected him.

Compare Truman to Blair - Blairs true colours really stand out.


Jimbeaux

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33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
Truism there my friend. Many past leaders' actions, good & bad, would not have occurred had they had today's media microscope focused upon them.

madala

5,063 posts

228 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Politicians - As they should be!

...I am very disappointed, I thought I was going to see some pictures bodies swinging from lamp posts......

Halb

53,012 posts

213 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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madala said:
Politicians - As they should be!

...I am very disappointed, I thought I was going to see some pictures bodies swinging from lamp posts......

All leaders should start out knowing they will get the Mussolini treatment as default and that they need to work very hard in their 5 years in the post so that it doesn't happen?biggrin


Edited by Halb on Sunday 23 January 18:09

Derek Smith

49,934 posts

278 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
A few tidbits on Harry Truman. . . .

I say dig him up and clone him!!"
No need. We have Blair. They could be twins.

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Halb said:
madala said:
Politicians - As they should be!

...I am very disappointed, I thought I was going to see some pictures bodies swinging from lamp posts......

All leaders should start out knowing they will get the Mussolini treatment as default and that they need to work very hard in their 5 years in the post so that it doesn't happen?biggrin


Edited by Halb on Sunday 23 January 18:09
The Mussolini treatment. That sounds like an expensive cosmetic procedure. biggrin

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Derek Smith said:
Jimbeaux said:
A few tidbits on Harry Truman. . . .

I say dig him up and clone him!!"
No need. We have Blair. They could be twins.
Surely you attempt cynacism? biggrin

Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 23 January 18:44

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Derek Smith said:
Jimbeaux said:
A few tidbits on Harry Truman. . . .

I say dig him up and clone him!!"
No need. We have Blair. They could be twins.
You forgot the rolling smile :|

Police State

4,376 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy


Jasandjules

72,624 posts

259 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
The Mussolini treatment. That sounds like an expensive cosmetic procedure. biggrin
I'd like to see it re-named the Blair Treatment. But keep it the same practice, not cosmetics.....

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Police State said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy
There was corruption long before those fellows. Off the cuff, I can point to the Grant administration of the 19th century.

ErnestM

11,621 posts

297 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
Police State said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy
There was corruption long before those fellows. Off the cuff, I can point to the Grant administration of the 19th century.
...or Andrew Jackson "To the victors go the spoils", etc

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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ErnestM said:
Jimbeaux said:
Police State said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy
There was corruption long before those fellows. Off the cuff, I can point to the Grant administration of the 19th century.
...or Andrew Jackson "To the victors go the spoils", etc
A man who new a thing or two about bankers.

Derek Smith

49,934 posts

278 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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AndrewW-G said:
Derek Smith said:
Jimbeaux said:
A few tidbits on Harry Truman. . . .

I say dig him up and clone him!!"
No need. We have Blair. They could be twins.
You forgot the rolling smile :
Don't you kow about the good twin and the evil twin? It's in all the films. One is dark and terrifying, evil incarnate. And gets the ugly bird.

Police State

4,376 posts

250 months

Sunday 23rd January 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
Police State said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy
There was corruption long before those fellows. Off the cuff, I can point to the Grant administration of the 19th century.
yeah, but we were supposed to get a 'new deal' in the 20th century. Instead we just got the same old deal.

Jimbeaux

Original Poster:

33,791 posts

261 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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Police State said:
Jimbeaux said:
Police State said:
Eric Mc said:
Jimbeaux said:
I don't know if it just got too much to resist or do we just have people of lesser character today all around?
One word - Media.

Constant attention
Constant questionning
Constant expectation
One word - Corruption

Clinton
Nixon
Kennedy
There was corruption long before those fellows. Off the cuff, I can point to the Grant administration of the 19th century.
yeah, but we were supposed to get a 'new deal' in the 20th century. Instead we just got the same old deal.
Worse, I'd say.