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PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,466 posts

329 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Is anyone else getting a lot of bounces from AOL today?

davidd

6,702 posts

310 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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No..

Be aware AOL block domains, for instance anything coming from freeserver will be bounced by AOL. Maybe your ISP is having a problem..

D

BrianTheYank

7,585 posts

276 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Thats why you shouldnt use AOL. Utter crap I tell you.

Ribol

11,927 posts

284 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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No AOL problems here, works a treat.

Ivan

simpo two

92,137 posts

291 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Didn't AOL bounce BCC mails to try to cut spam?

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,466 posts

329 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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How do they expect people to communicate with their members if they block email?

chim_girl

6,268 posts

285 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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I'm getting the same problem if I email from work. I work for one of the largest banks in the UK, in their wisdom AOL have decided everything we send to their users is spam! I ask you.

chrisgr31

14,257 posts

281 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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AOL are trying to improve the anti-spam service they offer there members. This is done in a number of ways. I forget how many spam messages AOl currently block but seem to recall its in excess of millions a day. And of course spam still gets though.

AOL know has a spam button and its possible that a number of people receiving email from you have managed to report it as spam, either because they are too lazy to amend their preferences on here, or becuase they have done it in error.

The other thing AOL is doing is checking that email comes from where it says it's from, and indeed they won't accept email from a fixed IP address.

You could try phoning them, and seeing if they can allow your emails through.

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,466 posts

329 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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About time someone sorted out the whole spam thing.

Ribol

11,927 posts

284 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Ted, I have had mail from you in the last two weeks, that obviously worked. Is this something new then?

Ivan

davidd

6,702 posts

310 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Spam is a pain in the arse and the amount i get from aol....

D

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,466 posts

329 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Ribol said:
Ted, I have had mail from you in the last two weeks, that obviously worked. Is this something new then?Ivan


I have had about five rejections this morning and none of the welcome messages from PH to new members now reach AOL users.

I'm going to have to implement another means by which people verify their email addresses just to get round AOL

TheHobbit

1,189 posts

277 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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davidd said:
Spam is a pain in the arse and the amount i get from aol....

D


I'm not defending AOL, but it's worth pointing out that a lot of the spam you get that appears to come from AOL addresses, it actually spoofed by the spammer to avoid detection......

....that said, whoever runs AOLs mailsystem needs a . IIRC, they recently changed their system so it only sends HTML mail, and no text only part

chrisgr31

14,257 posts

281 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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chim_girl said:
I'm getting the same problem if I email from work. I work for one of the largest banks in the UK, in their wisdom AOL have decided everything we send to their users is spam! I ask you.


One of the largest banks in the UK recently had to admit that it was their system that was at fault and thats why they were blocked by AOL! They were encouraged to investigate after scores of AOL members emailed them!

AOL is of course the wrlds largest ISP and therefore are the largest target for spam, so its not suprising that they are so keen to tackle it. Especially as it is one of the biggest, if not the biggest, cause of complaints by their customers.

Certainly I have noticed a dramatic drop in spam in th last few days so their filters must be working.

What I don't know of course is how many genuinue emails have vanished!

However emails from large banks should not be blocked, but of course does one believe the IT people at the sending company or the IT people at AOL as they each blame each other for the non-arrival of email!

chrisgr31

14,257 posts

281 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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TheHobbit said:

davidd said:
Spam is a pain in the arse and the amount i get from aol....

D



I'm not defending AOL, but it's worth pointing out that a lot of the spam you get that appears to come from AOL addresses, it actually spoofed by the spammer to avoid detection......




The other good thing about AOL historically has been that their email system has been secure from the viruses and worms that have affected Outlook users resulting in emails been sent to everyone in the outlook address book.

Having said that AOL are now opening up their email system to allow Outlook etc to be used.

chim_girl

6,268 posts

285 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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chrisgr31 said:
However emails from large banks should not be blocked, but of course does one believe the IT people at the sending company or the IT people at AOL as they each blame each other for the non-arrival of email!


Your post made interesting reading, and your observations about blame are so true.

PetrolTed

Original Poster:

34,466 posts

329 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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Guess I'd better check my sending mechanism then

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

291 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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iirc AOL Require a valid MX, with valid Reverse DNS for the MX server before they will let you communicate with them.

TBH, thats how mailservers should be anyway.


JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

291 months

Monday 26th April 2004
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FYI,

You dont have Reverse DNS setup on your MX server.

Your MX Record is based on a CNAME, not an A Record.

Also, your DNS records are showing to the world, which is a slight Security Risk.. (Allow-Transfer option to fix this)

AND, your TTL is set to 5 mins, which means every 5 mins, everyone has to regrab your DNS details, which sticks a nasty load on your servers, and can result in slower browsing experiences. Not to mention being non RFC compliant. ;P


NiX Stuff said:

root@Mook:~> host -lv pistonheads.com app1.carrenza.com
Using domain server:
Name: app1.carrenza.com
Addresses: 213.219.55.98

Trying 213.219.55.98
pistonheads.com 300 IN NS app1.carrenza.com
pistonheads.com 300 IN NS edge.london.carrenza.com
pistonheads.com 300 IN A 213.52.163.118


root@Mook:~> host pistonheads.com
pistonheads.com has address 213.52.163.118
pistonheads.com mail is handled (pri=0) by mail.pistonheads.co.uk


root@Mook:~> host mail.pistonheads.co.uk
mail.pistonheads.co.uk is a nickname for petrolheads1.pistonheads.co.uk
petrolheads1.pistonheads.co.uk has address 213.52.163.118


root@Mook:~> host 213.52.163.118
Host not found.
root@Mook:~>


lemme know if you need any more info / help.