Best and Worst depreciation?
Best and Worst depreciation?
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iandc

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3,893 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Given that most supercars tend to depreciate but the odd ones atually go up in value has anyone either lost of gained excessive amounts? I understand it is all subjective and you pay for the enjoyment of ownership etc but interested in knowing examples. To start the ball rolling I lost £35k on 360 Spider in 18 months but next to nothing on Gallardo Spyder in same period.

DrYazz

881 posts

210 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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iandc said:
Given that most supercars tend to depreciate but the odd ones atually go up in value has anyone either lost of gained excessive amounts? I understand it is all subjective and you pay for the enjoyment of ownership etc but interested in knowing examples. To start the ball rolling I lost £35k on 360 Spider in 18 months but next to nothing on Gallardo Spyder in same period.
yikes Blimey. What did you do? Roll it off a cliff?

matc

4,738 posts

238 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I made £5k on the Cayman S I had before the 360 and recently sold that for £4k more than I paid for it. I guess if you change cars pretty regularly and look for the bargains without being too fussy on spec/colour then supercar ownership can be relatively cheap!

Buying new and selling after 2/3 years is always going to have the worst depreciation, but I guess you do get the benefit of speccing the car exactly as you want it and the joy of being the the first person to thrash it!

johnnyreggae

3,170 posts

191 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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There's a post here earlier today suggesting a bid equating to nearly thirty grand depreciation in four months on a new Cayenne Turbo

Candellara

1,890 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Good friend of mine purchased a nice Rosso Corsa 360M with 27k miles from an Independant dealer in 2007. Year 2000 car - Purchase price £62k (which was in-line with market value at the time)

Spent:
£1k private plate
£500 detailing
£900 service
£800 insurance
£xxx tax

F1 pump failed

£6200 inc clutch from Ferrari Main dealer

Total outlay £71400

After 18 months and just 1500 miles, car went on the market via SOR £48k. No takers, reduced to £45k. No takers so car returned from Ferrari specialist where it was on SOR. £42k privately advertised - no takers. £40k and finally accepted an offer from a private buyer of £38k inc private plate

Cost £33,400 or £22.26 per mile cost of ownership excluding any finance costs (IIRC the car wasn't on finance, but if it had been add another few '000 in costs)

pattyg

1,385 posts

258 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Candellara said:
Good friend of mine purchased a nice Rosso Corsa 360M with 27k miles from an Independant dealer in 2007. Year 2000 car - Purchase price £62k (which was in-line with market value at the time)

Spent:
£1k private plate
£500 detailing
£900 service
£800 insurance
£xxx tax

F1 pump failed

£6200 inc clutch from Ferrari Main dealer

Total outlay £71400

After 18 months and just 1500 miles, car went on the market via SOR £48k. No takers, reduced to £45k. No takers so car returned from Ferrari specialist where it was on SOR. £42k privately advertised - no takers. £40k and finally accepted an offer from a private buyer of £38k inc private plate

Cost £33,400 or £22.26 per mile cost of ownership excluding any finance costs (IIRC the car wasn't on finance, but if it had been add another few '000 in costs)
Ouch! But if you include tax, plates, servicing and insurance every motorist takes a shoeing.

Mosi

2,040 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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johnnyreggae said:
There's a post here earlier today suggesting a bid equating to nearly thirty grand depreciation in four months on a new Cayenne Turbo
I lost £35k on a brand new Cayenne Turbo I bought in 2004 and sold 3 months later. I was dead chuffed!!

Lost nowt on my SuperL that I bought in June 09 and sold in Oct 10 though (after 7k very enjoyable miles I will add)

andrew

10,365 posts

223 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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coyft said:
I've been pleasantly surprised with my Gallardo SL. I've had it for 2 and half years, paid £124k for it with 3,000 miles. It's done 13,000 now, not sure what it's worth but I would have thought £90K. With servicing, tyres at say £8k, stands me in at £131k. Works out at about £4 per mile.
any sl sub 100k is headed east frown

Pork

9,455 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Mosi] said:
I lost £35k on a brand new Cayenne Turbo I bought in 2004 and sold 3 months later. I was dead chuffed!!
OUCH! Did you do 30k miles in 3 months or something?

Mosi

2,040 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Pork said:
Mosi] said:
I lost £35k on a brand new Cayenne Turbo I bought in 2004 and sold 3 months later. I was dead chuffed!!
OUCH! Did you do 30k miles in 3 months or something?
Nope, did 8k miles

Put quite a bit of effort into getting the best trade price too

That experience was not the best


markst

247 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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bought my 360 spider for 76...kept it 12 months then sold it in 07 for 70.....just before prices dropped !!

my 328 cost me 32.5k and sold it for 30k...it would still be worth the same today....

it does appear dealers love a large margin ...try selling a 430 in the trade Vs buying one

DMC2

2,003 posts

242 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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A friend of mine lost over £60k on a Vanquish in 18 months...

phib

4,520 posts

290 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Best was my 911 2.7 rs paid 43k kept it 4 years sold it for 202k ( I did however spend 86k with Porsche having it restored properly !!!)

355 probably worth what i paid for it 3 years ago

Phib

UH-Matt

2,173 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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coyft said:
I've been pleasantly surprised with my Gallardo SL. I've had it for 2 and half years, paid £124k for it with 3,000 miles. It's done 13,000 now, not sure what it's worth but I would have thought £90K. With servicing, tyres at say £8k, stands me in at £131k. Works out at about £4 per mile.
£90k you say? I'll take it smile

Xeno

304 posts

212 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I think £30k is about the bottom line for a good condition V8 Ferrari. Can't ever see them dropping below that in big numbers.

tali1

5,286 posts

232 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Mosi said:
Pork said:
Mosi] said:
I lost £35k on a brand new Cayenne Turbo I bought in 2004 and sold 3 months later. I was dead chuffed!!
OUCH! Did you do 30k miles in 3 months or something?
Nope, did 8k miles

Put quite a bit of effort into getting the best trade price too

That experience was not the best
But was the urgency /desperation that you had to sell and take a 35k hit?- You probably would have got same after a year

sng45

497 posts

207 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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One of my friends paid £134,000 for a Bentley Continental GT when they first came out - kept it for 16 months and 1800 miles in that time - sold it for ...................£84,000 ........................so a loss of 50 grand or £3,125pm - £27.77 per mile !!!

Mosi

2,040 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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tali1 said:
But was the urgency /desperation that you had to sell and take a 35k hit?- You probably would have got same after a year
In hindsight I wish I had kept it, but I was impatient and wanted something else

Ho hum


Sarnie

8,377 posts

240 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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coyft said:
UH-Matt said:
coyft said:
I've been pleasantly surprised with my Gallardo SL. I've had it for 2 and half years, paid £124k for it with 3,000 miles. It's done 13,000 now, not sure what it's worth but I would have thought £90K. With servicing, tyres at say £8k, stands me in at £131k. Works out at about £4 per mile.
£90k you say? I'll take it smile
I was only guessing. smile

Should not be construed as expression of willingness to enter into a contract of sale
£91k? smile

Pork

9,455 posts

265 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Mosi said:
Pork said:
Mosi] said:
I lost £35k on a brand new Cayenne Turbo I bought in 2004 and sold 3 months later. I was dead chuffed!!
OUCH! Did you do 30k miles in 3 months or something?
Nope, did 8k miles

Put quite a bit of effort into getting the best trade price too

That experience was not the best
Blimey. Alas, tis only money.