brake discs, why the massive price differance?
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hi,
after having a silly bill from my mazda dealer of £312+ vat ti re skim my rear disks i went on the hunt for some new rear discs.
now the issue being that they vary so much in price and i some how doubt the price differance is just.
it ranges from ebay standard spec disc's for £41
quick search online seams o.e type discs range around £50-£80.
pagid plain disc £100
and some uprated discs like ebc and black diamond discs about £160-£200
this is all just for rear discs, now i have always found the pads make the differance not the discs and the discs normally with holes and grooves bought for looks?
thanks guys
after having a silly bill from my mazda dealer of £312+ vat ti re skim my rear disks i went on the hunt for some new rear discs.
now the issue being that they vary so much in price and i some how doubt the price differance is just.
it ranges from ebay standard spec disc's for £41
quick search online seams o.e type discs range around £50-£80.
pagid plain disc £100
and some uprated discs like ebc and black diamond discs about £160-£200
this is all just for rear discs, now i have always found the pads make the differance not the discs and the discs normally with holes and grooves bought for looks?
thanks guys
Got a set of discs for my BMW - they were about £16-£18 each. I was impressed at the quality of the casting and machining on them at the price. 'Bremtech' brand. I'm sure for track/race applications you might see a difference, but for kit to keep the car on the road?
I'd be a bit more wary of really really cheap pads than discs, as the OP
noted that's where I've felt most difference in my brakes.
Doing discs/pads is one of those jobs where when you've done it once, you vow never to pay anyone to do it again IMO. they're designed to be changed in minimal time after all.
I'd be a bit more wary of really really cheap pads than discs, as the OP
noted that's where I've felt most difference in my brakes.
Doing discs/pads is one of those jobs where when you've done it once, you vow never to pay anyone to do it again IMO. they're designed to be changed in minimal time after all.
I would just buy some good quality standard spec discs for rears.
Everyone seems to have their preferred brand, but I bought Brembo standard rear discs recently from http://www.nextdaybrakes.com. Much cheaper than buying manufacturer branded parts and they're a well known brand.
At a quick glance it looks like rear discs for your Mazda are £45.95 a pair inc. delivery.
Everyone seems to have their preferred brand, but I bought Brembo standard rear discs recently from http://www.nextdaybrakes.com. Much cheaper than buying manufacturer branded parts and they're a well known brand.
At a quick glance it looks like rear discs for your Mazda are £45.95 a pair inc. delivery.
Edited by RDB on Tuesday 25th January 22:56
LeighW said:
deveng said:
Because the price from the dealer included labour..... And the prices you've plucked out of the Internet are supply only....
OP states that the dealer quote was to skim the discs, not replace them.Edited by NHK244V on Tuesday 25th January 22:59
There is a quality differance in cheap discs and OE spec ones. You will be fine with Apex TRW BEndix Ferodo (NAP national). Some of the cheap discs are made of low carbon steel and wear out at the same rate as the pads do.
You get what you pay for and some of these that come in a white box from india and china are truley shocking quality.
The reason that Mazda are offering a skim is that on an OE part there is enough meat on them to bring back to good condition whilst still remaining safe and usable for the future.
You get what you pay for and some of these that come in a white box from india and china are truley shocking quality.
The reason that Mazda are offering a skim is that on an OE part there is enough meat on them to bring back to good condition whilst still remaining safe and usable for the future.
I'd have a look at the Brembos. As I understand it, iron is better than steel so the make-up of the metal is important. Back in the 70s and 80s, Jap bikes used to have lovely shiny discs that didn't really work very well but looked nice while Ducatis had Brembos which rusted like muthaf*ck*s but were obviously the thing to have.
I would say that rear discs are not as crucial as front disc choice though.
I would say that rear discs are not as crucial as front disc choice though.
LuS1fer said:
I would say that rear discs are not as crucial as front disc choice though.
This. Back brakes provide a very low proportion of braking - else you'd be doing 'handbrake turns' every time you emergency stopped.
Buy Brembo, fit them yourself and you're in a better position than running skimmed discs.
You've also saved loads of cash.
HellDiver said:
spaximus said:
The reason that Mazda are offering a skim is that on an OE part there is enough meat on them to bring back to good condition whilst still remaining safe and usable for the future.
It also allows them to charge £300 to rescue a £40 set of discs.The brand you mentioned, is part of the group I work for, their discs are OE quality many scourced from the OE supplier. Many that come in a plain white box are now where near the quality.
spaximus said:
There is a quality differance in cheap discs and OE spec ones. You will be fine with Apex TRW BEndix Ferodo (NAP national). Some of the cheap discs are made of low carbon steel and wear out at the same rate as the pads do.
You get what you pay for and some of these that come in a white box from india and china are truley shocking quality.
You get what you pay for and some of these that come in a white box from india and china are truley shocking quality.
The problem is that even many well-known - OE system supplier - brand names are merely repackers of brake discs sourced from the world market in the aftermarket business (OE and aftermarket often being two different business units with little in common other than the brand name). So even paying for a 'good' brand you can end up with discs make in some medieval Chinese foundry; traceability of parts in case of defects is a bit lacking sometimes, too. OTOH large aftermarket supplier organisations like Quinton Hazell and the like should have their supply chains in order to deliver conistent, decent quality. For my money though I'd go for something like Brembo who make all their own discs to OE standards or beyond in a high-carbon content grey iron. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff