RE: Gumpert Readies 'Tourer' Model For Geneva

RE: Gumpert Readies 'Tourer' Model For Geneva

Wednesday 26th January 2011

Gumpert Readies 'Tourer' Model For Geneva

Coachbuilt second model will be called Tornante


Not the new Tornante...
Not the new Tornante...
Maker of mega-hardcore (and mega-expensive) German supercars, Gumpert, is set to unveil a second model - the Tornante - at the Geneva motor show in a few weeks time.

Presumably partly in a bid to take some of the shine off the new Pagani Huayra, Gumpert has commissioned Italian carrozzeria (we could say 'coachbuilder', but the Italian sounds so much better) Touring Superleggera to create a less-hardcore two-seat 'touring' model.

The car will be based around a new chassis, with a mid-mounted V8 powerplant. Or, in the endearingly Germanic words of the Gumpert press release, the Tornante will be "based on a new central engine chassis and V8-powered driveline".

The body, meanwhile, will be composite panels on a spaceframe, with a carbon fibre monocoque beneath.

Gumpert isn't giving away anything more concrete about the car, other than the fact that the German company has "requested the Milanese designer to add space, elegance and comfort to their typical sheer performance attitude".

We'll know more, presumably, when the wraps come off the car at the Geneva motor show in March.

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[AJ]

Original Poster:

3,079 posts

213 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Ooh, loving the idea of this. The Apollo was far from pretty, but I thought it was a great looking car, certainly in the flesh. Very purposeful and mean. This looks rather promising and will hopefully give the fish faced Pegani something to think about performance wise too. I'm guessing it's still going to look very practical in the inside next to Pegani's rather extravagant interior though.

jibbert

69 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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this will not touch the Pagani huayra!

RJDM3

1,441 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

202 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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this is exactly what I have been looking for. rolleyes

M666 EVO

1,129 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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FUGLY!

RJDM3

1,441 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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M666 EVO said:
FUGLY!
How do you make that assumption without a single picture?

JumpinJack

408 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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The Hardcore version is definately not a looker, but I can't wait to see what they come up with now.


SCR Racing

168 posts

184 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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RJDM3 said:
M666 EVO said:
FUGLY!
How do you make that assumption without a single picture?
And, who gives a st if it is? The Apollo was ugly as sin, but goes like it's fuelled on sins. Which is mega!

RJDM3

1,441 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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But this version of the Apollo S is pretty cool





chuntington101

5,733 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Shame they aren't using the V10 from the RS6. i have heard they can make over 1000bhp with diffrent turbos! Also the Underground Racing Team have a lambo V10 that makes over 1500bhp. These engines are seriously strong!

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

293 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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chuntington101 said:
Shame they aren't using the V10 from the RS6. i have heard they can make over 1000bhp with diffrent turbos! Also the Underground Racing Team have a lambo V10 that makes over 1500bhp. These engines are seriously strong!
Didn't that Lambo flip on the Texas mile comp? Gumpert looks still too parts bin and i've been made in a shed.

RobPhoboS

3,454 posts

241 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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From that pic it already looks a shed load better than the horrid new Pagani.

Amizade

311 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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RJDM3 said:
But this version of the Apollo S is pretty cool

from the defensive body language it looks like a punter has just rocked up and said their car looks ste!

havoc

31,838 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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article said:
The body, meanwhile, will be composite panels on a spaceframe, with a carbon fibre monocoque beneath.
Erm...guys...spaceframes and monocoques are typically alternatives, not complements.

It'll either have one or the other, or conceivably it may have a monocoque front-end bolted to a spaceframe rear-end.


Can I ask you go back to those crazy Germans at Gumpert and ask exactly what they mean???


marcosgt

11,329 posts

191 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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dean_ratpac said:
Gumpert looks still too parts bin and i've been made in a shed.
Is that a little too much information about your conception? wink

M.

Riggers

1,859 posts

193 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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havoc said:
article said:
The body, meanwhile, will be composite panels on a spaceframe, with a carbon fibre monocoque beneath.
Erm...guys...spaceframes and monocoques are typically alternatives, not complements.

It'll either have one or the other, or conceivably it may have a monocoque front-end bolted to a spaceframe rear-end.


Can I ask you go back to those crazy Germans at Gumpert and ask exactly what they mean???
The thought had crossed my mind. I'll put the question to 'em...

ETA:

No need - here's what the website says:

Gumpert's website said:
The secret of Apollo is an innovative design concept from racing car engineering. The base and symbolic backbone of Apollo consists a round tube frame made of top-quality and highly stable chrome-molybdenum-steel with an integrated monocoque safety cell made of high quality carbon fibre screwed directly onto the frame. The 161 kg (355 lbs.) construction design is so effective, so torsion proof and bend resistant that it complies with both the specifications of the European MOT approval and the international manufacture specifications of motor sports (see annex J of the FIA regulations).
Edited by Riggers on Wednesday 26th January 15:25

RJDM3

1,441 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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Considering Rolands experience prior to Gumpert he certianly knows how to build a car.

Squabbler

3,139 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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I actually liked Gumpert Apollo. Its ugliness is functional, which is why it doesn't need to be explained. As some race driver said, The fastest car is the most beautiful.

mainaman

424 posts

200 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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The Apollo is the fastest production car with a ''roof'' on the Ring,no other road car have the same power,downforce levels,race spec suspension,etc.,while offering most of the cabin luxuries of a ''normal'' car.

RJDM3

1,441 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th January 2011
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mainaman said:
The Apollo is the fastest production car with a ''roof'' on the Ring,no other road car have the same power,downforce levels,race spec suspension,etc.,while offering most of the cabin luxuries of a ''normal'' car.
Did you pull that quote from somewhere?

The car inside is far from luxurious, but it is purposeful