Does Transmission fluid smell like brake fluid?

Does Transmission fluid smell like brake fluid?

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Deluded

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4,968 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Just been outside at work to see a rather large puddle under my car. FML.

Put my fingers in to smell it and its definatly not coolant. Smells very strong. The first thing I thought of was brake fluid (having bled brakes in the past). It's similar to engine oil but a fair bit stronger.

Checked all of the brake lines/components in the engine bay and all are fine. There is no fluid anywhere in the bay.

Looking underneigh, it is dripping off the bottom of the gearbox where it joins to the engine block. Seems like its coming from inside the bell housing.

So think it could either be the crank seal and it is engine oil or a seal on the gearbox leaking transmission fluid.

Does tranny fluid smell of brake fluid or is it different? Pretty sure it isn't engine oil. Looks very clean too and quite light in colour, like brake fluid too...

Any ideas?

Marf

22,907 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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They smell different in my experience. Gearbox oil has a bloody horrible smell, whereas brake fluid is far less offensive.

Fartgalen

6,764 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Is it an Auto ? If so take the tranny fluid dipstick out and see if it's the same stuff.

Deluded

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4,968 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Nope, cable clutch.

The smell isn't that offensive, but pretty much certain it isn't brake fluid as there is nowhere the fluid could get onto the block/gearbox to drip off the bottom.

Could be engine oil but smells different IMO. Plus as said, it looks very clean and clear, which on this car, I wouldn't expect it to be.

Its a Suzuki swift 1987.

PHuzzy

2,747 posts

187 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Used gearbox oil smells a bit like onions from the 2 cars I've had a leak on? Anyone else or is it just me with my French onion boxes?

Snoop Bagg

1,879 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Marf said:
They smell different in my experience. Gearbox oil has a bloody horrible smell, whereas brake fluid is far less offensive.
There is absolutely nothing worse than the smell of Transmission fluid in the morning! It smells of burnt chemicals.

Marf

22,907 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Snoop Bagg said:
Marf said:
They smell different in my experience. Gearbox oil has a bloody horrible smell, whereas brake fluid is far less offensive.
There is absolutely nothing worse than the smell of Transmission fluid in the morning! It smells of burnt chemicals.
Made me wretch the first time I changed my gearbox oil. Horrible acrid stuff yuck

RicksAlfas

14,078 posts

259 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Deluded said:
The smell isn't that offensive, but pretty much certain it isn't brake fluid as there is nowhere the fluid could get onto the block/gearbox to drip off the bottom.
You would be amazed where fluid can run to on a car.

Brake fluid feels slightly oily/greasy if you rub it between your fingers.
Gearbox oil smells like an explosion in a chemical works.
Coolant feels watery but has a very sweet taste (don't drink it, just dab your tongue on it like a TV cop checking coke).
Engine oil is engine oil.
That should be your lot - hopefully!

E30M3SE

8,477 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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PAS fluid if it really smells bad.

davepoth

29,395 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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EP gear oil smells a bit "nutty" to my nose. Clutch/Brake (non DOT 5) fluid doesn't really have too much of a non-oil odour.

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

205 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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What vintage is it?

If there's a distinct nutty aroma with hints of summer fruits it's probably gearbox oil.




Marf

22,907 posts

256 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Prof Prolapse said:
If there's a distinct nutty aroma with hints of summer fruits it's probably gearbox oil.
Either that or some kind of muesli.


tongue out

EDLT

15,421 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Brake fluid doesn't evaporate, so maybe its just off someone else's car.

Deluded

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4,968 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th January 2011
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Drove it home. No problems.

Not leaking from the join to the engine/box afterall. From what I can see, its leaking from one of the cups on the Diff where the drive shaft connects to the box. It was pulled out slightly, pushed it back in and the leak stopped. Although I presume it shouldn't just pull in and out?

The garage I bought the car from changed said drive shaft prior to me buying the car. Possible there was a retaining clip they forgot to put back in?

NHK244V

3,358 posts

187 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Older manual gearbox oil is FOUL!! smells like cats pee (EP 80/90) semi synthetic is not as pungent but has a faint wiff of the same, brake fluid will leave your skin dry after wiping it off but unless old tends not to smell of much at all really, auto trans fluid (red/pink stuff) will smell of rotten eggs if it's old and burnt.
Sounds like the circlip has snapped on the inner spline IF it uses one ?

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

248 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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I'd say the EP stuff is much more sulfurous (obnoxious "clear the lift" farts) than ammoniacal (cat pee remnants in the bottom of the cats' tray). But then my sense of smell ain't what it could be wink .


The difference is noticeable, and if it's EP gear oil you'll be able to tell with a damn good close-up sniff! hehe

But check if your car takes the EP stuff in its 'box, or just engine oil which won't smell of much at all...