Mandela's final days?
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BBC : Nelson Mandela in hospital: Tight South Africa security
Nelson Mandela: Media vigil outside hospital
Winnie in tears as she leaves hospital
ANC calls for calm
If this is indeed the beginning of the end, there's much speculation in South Africa regarding a possible civil war once he shuffles off this mortal coil.
Whether or not you believe in Uhuru (Google uhuru night of the long knives), it is certainly causing consternation among South Africans.
Nelson Mandela: Media vigil outside hospital
Winnie in tears as she leaves hospital
ANC calls for calm
If this is indeed the beginning of the end, there's much speculation in South Africa regarding a possible civil war once he shuffles off this mortal coil.
Whether or not you believe in Uhuru (Google uhuru night of the long knives), it is certainly causing consternation among South Africans.
Jimbeaux said:
Why all the speculation that there will be trouble? After all it was the evil white man that caused all of their problems. Since he has been put in his place and rightousness has been restored, why would Mandela passing be a reason for turmoil and unrest?
Because there are some in South Africa who think that Robert Mugabe's way of running Zimbabwe is a model of how South Africa should be run.And there are many who think that the only reason it hasn't started going that way yet is because the Old Man is still around
rs1952 said:
Jimbeaux said:
Why all the speculation that there will be trouble? After all it was the evil white man that caused all of their problems. Since he has been put in his place and rightousness has been restored, why would Mandela passing be a reason for turmoil and unrest?
Because there are some in South Africa who think that Robert Mugabe's way of running Zimbabwe is a model of how South Africa should be run.And there are many who think that the only reason it hasn't started going that way yet is because the Old Man is still around
rs1952 said:
Because there are some in South Africa who think that Robert Mugabe's way of running Zimbabwe is a model of how South Africa should be run.
And there are many who think that the only reason it hasn't started going that way yet is because the Old Man is still around
Therefore, what you are saying is that their self government is going to be as equally as successful as their fellow African nations here pretty soon?And there are many who think that the only reason it hasn't started going that way yet is because the Old Man is still around
Current leader is dodgy as f
k, that much is more or less a given.
Mandela's passing will be sad, that's true. The question will be if anyone will be able to moderate what will sadly be increasingly extreme views once their uniting figurehead is gone. I really hope it's not another Zimbabwe.
k, that much is more or less a given. Mandela's passing will be sad, that's true. The question will be if anyone will be able to moderate what will sadly be increasingly extreme views once their uniting figurehead is gone. I really hope it's not another Zimbabwe.
The_Burg said:
Another terrorist kicks the bucket, can't wait for the 'Gerry Adams' bearded bomb slinging hero bank holiday.
Really? you're going to compare the Northern Ireland situation, where the Catholics weren't exactly subjugated, to apartheid? Do you still sit at the very front of the bus, just because?davepoth said:
Really? you're going to compare the Northern Ireland situation, where the Catholics weren't exactly subjugated, to apartheid? Do you still sit at the very front of the bus, just because?
And SA has improved? I agree apartheid was always wrong, but since, has it developed. Same as Zimbabwe. i Totally agree we give it back to the true owners, but without the oppresive regime would they have thrived? I think not.Pesty said:
Over 3000 White farmers have been murdered since 1994 with Mandela still alive.
Can it get much worse when he dies?
probably
Days of empire, wrong in many ways. But we also gave a lot. Can it get much worse when he dies?
probably
Not always right but we ruled with many good things too. For a tiny island we gave a lot but maybe took to much.
Name a country that has thrived since we left!
Here's to the the corporate rule, was the empire so wrong? Are there many happier?
Possibly not PC but hey this is PH!
Pesty said:
Over 3000 White farmers have been murdered since 1994 with Mandela still alive.
Can it get much worse when he dies?
probably
I was last there in 2007 and was shocked at how much it had changed.Can it get much worse when he dies?
probably
Unfortunately it is heading in the direction of Zimbabwe, there have already been indications of a land grab and I'd be very surprised, nay shocked, if Mandelas death was not marked with extreme violence.
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