Small job cuts in public sector - Why such big news?
Small job cuts in public sector - Why such big news?
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Tsippy

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15,078 posts

199 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Obviously any job losses are sad for those involved, however the BBC seem to be really pushing every minor set of job cuts to the public sector? For example, my local country council is going to make 250 job cuts over the next 5 (I think was mentioned) years which will probably come through natural losses anyway, yet the media report it as if these cuts will be immediate and drastically reduce services.

Many thousands of jobs were lost in the private sector over the last 10 years yet the media were not getting into a cluster-wk over that, so why are public sector job losses so over exaggerated and promoted so highly?

Soovy

35,829 posts

301 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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BBC is a hotbed of lefties.


thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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And in other news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-12...

Beeb said:
Producers of the The Street That Cut Everything used the dog mess to try to depict what life could be like if council services were withdrawn.

Preston Council's Conservative leader, Ken Hudson, said it was not a good way to spend licence fee-payers' money.

Tory MP Stephen Hammond said he would complain to media regulator Ofcom.

Residents agreed to go without refuse collection, street cleaning and street lights and received a council tax rebate as they carried out essential services themselves.
And where the hell is my rebate as I don't get our private road cleaned, no street lights, no snow ploughs, no gritting, no road repairs etc

freakybacon

586 posts

193 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Standard lefty council mode of operation- employ a load of guardian readers in non-jobs in the good times, then when the day of reckoning comes- the axe falls on the front line services. There should not need to be any cuts- the council should be so efficient that there is no fat to cut.

boredofmyoldname

22,655 posts

229 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Soovy said:
BBC is a hotbed of lefties.
That and are also public sector employees.

Sticks.

9,717 posts

281 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Know what you mean OP but the media start and follow news fashion as long as it wants to. Dangerous dogs, knife crime, whatever, will seem like a daily occurrence, then suddenly nothing. Fwiw, I've often heard news on TV about factory closing, 50 jobs lost blah blah.

Public sector workers and the BBC are only all lefties in PH and the tabloids afaik. Btw Michael Gove used to work for the BBC, Lefty. laugh

Brighton Derly

597 posts

189 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Sticks. said:
Know what you mean OP but the media start and follow news fashion as long as it wants to. Dangerous dogs, knife crime, whatever, will seem like a daily occurrence, then suddenly nothing. Fwiw, I've often heard news on TV about factory closing, 50 jobs lost blah blah.

Public sector workers and the BBC are only all lefties in PH and the tabloids afaik. Btw Michael Gove used to work for the BBC, Lefty. laugh
The place is teeming with lefties.

Sticks.

9,717 posts

281 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
The place is teeming with lefties.
You speak for yourself wink

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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It's mainly because the public sector has the best unions, and they write good press releases. Then the news outlets just copy them onto their websites.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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To an extent private job loses are just that - 'private'. When big companies let people go it usually makes the news.

With regards to public job lossses its easy news as there are always annoucements. My emloyer had aanoucned massive budget cuts ages ago and job losses were obvious, Processes were in place to get rid of people (recruiment freezes/voluntary redundancies etc) however, only recently did the total job loss figure get released to the press as a brand spanking new figure of job losses - when infact a large number had already been accounted for inhouse anyway from what I can gather.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Nearly 50% of employed people work in the public sector iirc (figure will soon be out of date wink ). So its quite a large audience to aim at.

Brighton Derly

597 posts

189 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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EDLT said:
Nearly 50% of employed people work in the public sector iirc (figure will soon be out of date wink ). So its quite a large audience to aim at.
29 million people work. 6 million of them work in the public sector.

I make that 1 in 4.83

Or 20.69%

Or just too fking many

Edited by Brighton Derly on Saturday 29th January 01:31

Funkateer

990 posts

205 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
EDLT said:
Nearly 50% of employed people work in the public sector iirc (figure will soon be out of date wink ). So its quite a large audience to aim at.
29 million people work. 6 million of them work in the public sector.

I make that 1 in 4.83

Or 20.69%

Or just too fking many
Pity a few more of them haven't been deployed maintaining the roads. An example of a core public service cut massively by Labour in the late 90s.

Still we need those 'Diversity Officers', 'Smoking Cessation Officers', 'Elf and Safety' Whatevers...

southendpier

6,214 posts

259 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
29 million people work. 6 million of them work in the public sector.

I make that 1 in 4.83

Or 20.69%

Or just too fking many

Edited by Brighton Derly on Saturday 29th January 01:31
I expect if you add all the private contractors working solely on government projects, + those who work in the huge third sector (charities) then the figure i think is over 50%.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

288 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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My company has "right-sized" to the tune of 8500 (out of 60000), my wife has already been made redundant and I am waiting to find out if I will be too.. Wages haven't increased for the last 3 years (in some cases cut), and the pension terms and conditions altered beyond recognition. All of these events have been buried in the financial pages. A couple of hundred council bottom inspectors get their marching orders and the BBC behave as though the government is cutting the heart out of essential services! The public sector is a necessary overhead that UK Plc needs to function, however it should be a minimum overhead. If companies have more admin and support staff than profit making staff, they don't last long!

madala

5,063 posts

228 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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After twelve years of Labour misrule and them increasing the Public Sector workforce but gawd knows how many per cent it's well past time for a cull and of course the lefty unions will be making sure to cause as much agravation in the coming months as possible. Scumbag fuc*wits.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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madala said:
After twelve years of Labour misrule and them increasing the Public Sector workforce but gawd knows how many per cent it's well past time for a cull and of course the lefty unions will be making sure to cause as much agravation in the coming months as possible. Scumbag fuc*wits.
Nail>>>>>>>head

the public sector headcount has increased massively in the last 5 years (figures like 30+% being used).

they should have a last in first out policy, along with start at the top and work down.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

267 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Bad news: most probably they'll strike.
Good news: won't make anymdifference.

JagLover

46,814 posts

265 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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southendpier said:
I expect if you add all the private contractors working solely on government projects, + those who work in the huge third sector (charities) then the figure i think is over 50%.
Not 50% but certainly the 6 million figures hides those who work for organisations that are almost 100% dependant on state funding. Most of the 'local' charities you might see fall into this catergory.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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JagLover said:
Not 50% but certainly the 6 million figures hides those who work for organisations that are almost 100% dependant on state funding. Most of the 'local' charities you might see fall into this catergory.
actually, I suspect 50% is understating it.

think of all the 'privatise' services, then all the 'outsourced' and 'TUPE'ed staff.

ie. all the Capita, Accenture, KPMG, Cap Gemini, etc staff on public funded tasks.