Call outs and rest
Discussion
Hi All,
At my work, when we was on call and called out after midnight, we use to get given the day off. Now the boss whats to change it and for us to come in the next day. for instance yesterday, I started work at 8am, and finished at 1630, I was then called out at 2230 and finished at 0400.
how much rest should I be entitled too, before I start work again?
At my work, when we was on call and called out after midnight, we use to get given the day off. Now the boss whats to change it and for us to come in the next day. for instance yesterday, I started work at 8am, and finished at 1630, I was then called out at 2230 and finished at 0400.
how much rest should I be entitled too, before I start work again?
Edited by jdbecks on Friday 28th January 12:49
jdbecks said:
Thanks for your input, lets just hope in the other 12,742 posts of yours, you may have said something usefull
Easy tiger, I was just mildly amused at the fact that you had forgotten to put your question in your post so it just read like you had randomly told us a couple of lines of your day at work for no reason.Working Time Directive states you must have at least 11 hours of uninterrupted break between shifts.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/W...
If you finish at 4am, then you shouldn't go back into work until 3pm.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/W...
If you finish at 4am, then you shouldn't go back into work until 3pm.
A good employer would balance regulation, duty of care, staff morale and being a good egg against the type of work and the specific circumstances pertaining. If you're operating heavy machinery on routine tasks but in a high risk environment then you can see which way you should lean. If you're part of an acquisition team working to a deadline, possibly working with stakeholders abroad on different time zones, but working at a desk then you can equally see which way you would be heading. High quality risk assessment and common sense should see everyone getting the best out of each other IMHO. Why not ask to have a word with the boss to talk through the issue? Failing that, I assume you have a Union rep? Good luck!
rog007 said:
A good employer would balance regulation, duty of care, staff morale and being a good egg against the type of work and the specific circumstances pertaining. If you're operating heavy machinery on routine tasks but in a high risk environment then you can see which way you should lean. If you're part of an acquisition team working to a deadline, possibly working with stakeholders abroad on different time zones, but working at a desk then you can equally see which way you would be heading. High quality risk assessment and common sense should see everyone getting the best out of each other IMHO. Why not ask to have a word with the boss to talk through the issue? Failing that, I assume you have a Union rep? Good luck!
The law is the law: 11 hour gap regardless of the type of work, no arguments.The poster above who would expect his staff to be in at mid day after a call out finishing at 4am is also operating illegally/unlawfully.
Interesting posts as my colleagues and I are in the same boat, on any one weekday night 5 of us will be providing support between 5pm and 9am (weekends are 4 people from 9am Sat to 9am Sun and 4 people from 9am Sun to 9am Mon) for the systems we look after. We've been told that any calls up to 1am mean we should be in by 10am and anything up to 4am should see us in the office by between 12 noon and 1pm - as we're a fairly small team it's not unusual to not have a full team in during the week. It will be interesting to hear what the management and unions have to say about this. On a personal level, I'm finding it harder to recover from the early morning calls as I'm getting older.
CobolMan said:
Interesting posts as my colleagues and I are in the same boat, on any one weekday night 5 of us will be providing support between 5pm and 9am (weekends are 4 people from 9am Sat to 9am Sun and 4 people from 9am Sun to 9am Mon) for the systems we look after. We've been told that any calls up to 1am mean we should be in by 10am and anything up to 4am should see us in the office by between 12 noon and 1pm - as we're a fairly small team it's not unusual to not have a full team in during the week. It will be interesting to hear what the management and unions have to say about this. On a personal level, I'm finding it harder to recover from the early morning calls as I'm getting older.
Finish at 1am, start work the next day at 12pm.Finish at 4am, start work at 3pm.
Finish at 6:30am, then have the whole of the next day off (assuming you finish work at 5:30).
However, if your lunch break is unpaid, then add that in as well. EG: say you have one hour unpaid between 12pm and 1pm, if you finished at 4am then you would not have to go in until 4pm.
Make sure everyone is in agreement at work and then just start working to those times. Your employer cannot do anything about it.
dudleybloke said:
simple answer is to frequently phone your boss during the night to let him know how the jobs progressing and to let him know that your finished.
the next day when he's knackered and moaning that he's not had enough sleep tell him thats how you feel!
We have to do that already if anything is going to be delayed by more than an hour, nice thought though.the next day when he's knackered and moaning that he's not had enough sleep tell him thats how you feel!
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