Admitting problems when selling a house
Admitting problems when selling a house
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SimonV8ster

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12,926 posts

252 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Am I right in thinking that if you are selling a property you now have to admit any problems you have had/are having with any neighbours ? And if you don't and you sell you could get in hot water later ?

Or is this just something some bloke said to me down the pub one night..........

Simpo Two

91,507 posts

289 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Unless you're an estate agent I would imagine it's 'caveat emptor', just like a car.

GreenDog

2,261 posts

216 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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I think you're legally required to declare any disputes with neighbours, there'll be a form that you fill in at some point which asks about it. Pretty sure there was a case where the vendor stayed schtum and the buyer ended up taking them to court over it.

E31Shrew

5,962 posts

216 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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AFAIK it will be on the sales particular form that you fill out when selling the house. The one thats sent to the other parties solicitor.
We had an issue with a neighbour over 10 years ago and it did ask on the form, if there were any disputes etc

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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SimonV8ster

Original Poster:

12,926 posts

252 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Thanks, I thought there might have been something.

So if my neighbour has a side gate which opens onto my driveway which they are not allowed to use (as it was put in without permission and they have no right of access across my property) then they should tell the solicitor about it before the sale goes through ?

SimonV8ster

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12,926 posts

252 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Thanks Mr Grim Nasty thumbup looks like they might have to admit something !!

Bill

57,460 posts

279 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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SimonV8ster said:
Thanks Mr Grim Nasty thumbup looks like they might have to admit something !!
They're selling? It might be worth mentioning it to the estate agent if you wanted to create some mischief make sure it didn't get "forgotten" about wink

SimonV8ster

Original Poster:

12,926 posts

252 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Bill said:
SimonV8ster said:
Thanks Mr Grim Nasty thumbup looks like they might have to admit something !!
They're selling? It might be worth mentioning it to the estate agent if you wanted to create some mischief make sure it didn't get "forgotten" about wink
heheidea

Problem is - I want him to go but don't want hassle with a new neighbour who might not understand the situation until I go through it all again.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

257 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Assuming that the gate appeared less than 20 years ago:-

Letter to Neighbour's Agents said:
Dear Mr Agent,

Re [insert address]

Whilst I have absolutely no concerns in relation to the sale of our neighbour’s property and do not wish in any way to cause the proposed purchaser concern I feel that it should be made clear to the proposed purchasers legal advisors that there in no legal Right of Way from [insert address of neighbours property] over [insert address of your property].

I feel the need to ensure that this is drawn to the proposed purchaser’s attention as unfortunately our neighbours inserted a gateway in the fence between our two properties in [insert month and year] and despite our requests to do so has yet to have the opportunity to remove this.

We hope that the sale progresses with all reasonable haste and look forward to welcoming our new neighbours in due course.

Yours,

Simonv8ster

CC - Neighbour
If the gate has been there more than 20 years it becomes a lot more FUBAR.

Simpo Two

91,507 posts

289 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Though a dipute with neighbours might just be a personality clash...

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

257 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Though a dipute with neighbours might just be a personality clash...
No.

It might be and the facts will out it as such, but don't ever ignore something like this.

You must disclose anything like this or else you leave the door open. disclose EVERYTHING to your legal advisor and they will tell you what to put in and how if any good because sure as hell the one thing you forget will be the one that bites you on the arse.


Edited by Rude-boy on Friday 28th January 16:58

netherfield

3,083 posts

208 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Maybe this is why the new neighbours don't speak to us,not that we are bothered, its worth it just to get rid of the miserable f*****r who moved out.

Simpo Two

91,507 posts

289 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Rude-boy said:
No.

It might be
I like contradictions smile

But where do you draw the line? One of my neighbours has a noisy diesel car and reverses uphill past my house very slowly every weekday morning at 6.30am. If it wakes me up it annoys me. Do I put this in the particulars?

Steffan

10,362 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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Three concerns:

Firstly your correspondents are quite right the law now requires full disclosure by the vendor although providing you have been honest, caveat emptor will still apply to misunderstood matters. YOU MUST BE open and upfront. You do not need to be very detailed in your warnings just clear and reasonable

Secondly I would not allow the gate to remain. There is a downside risk in this.

I would NOT allow the neighbour to avoid his duty. There is nothing stopping you fixing the gate from your side so that it cannot be opened. If your new neighbour tries to use it he will have to come and see you and you can the advise him of the lack of any right of access. The presence of a gate in the fence unfixed over time may well muddy the waters and cause the mistaken impression that there may be common usage. Common usage in time may mean property rights over your land. Avoid it.

Thirdly for my amusement I always used to recommend boundary disputes to a particularly unpleasant solicitor recommending the complainant to insist on his personal attention. These cases are woefully long winded and invariably fruitless and a really good way to piss professionals off which was of course exactly my aim.