Expensive HDMI Vs Cheap HDMI cables
Expensive HDMI Vs Cheap HDMI cables
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DaGuv

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451 posts

227 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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I need a new hdmi cable. I have seen ones on amazon for 1.34 which supports up to 1080p. However I was in Currys today and noticed you can spend upwards of 100 quid on a cable. Do they make much difference.

steviejasp

1,646 posts

186 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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How long does it need to be?

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

216 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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People who have bought expensive cables will say there is. Personally I couldnt make out a difference.

davepoth

29,395 posts

220 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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It's digital. If it works, it's perfect quality. If it doesn't, it won't work.

I bought one for £3 in Lidl. Works absolutely fine.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

304 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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davepoth said:
It's digital. If it works, it's perfect quality. If it doesn't, it won't work.

I bought one for £3 in Lidl. Works absolutely fine.
It's a little more complicated than that, because HDMI is a high speed data connection not just a single slow data stream like a stereo audio link. The cable has to be up to the specification to do the job. For many purposes the cheapest lead available will be fine, but for longer runs you do need a decent quality one.

Also it isn't quite true to say it works or it doesn't. There are three stages - strong enough signal to decode without error, strong enough to mostly decode but with some reliance on error correction code, and not strong enough to decode. If the signal falls into the second category then it is possible that you will get a variable quality picture.

Having said that, you don't need to spend hundreds of pounds on gold plated leads, just one that is reasonably well made.

freecar

4,249 posts

208 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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steviejasp said:
How long does it need to be?
This, if it needs to be 10m spend a bit of money, my 10m one was about £30 and has some handshake issues sometimes with the ps3, I don't know if it would be there with a better one. Some very cheap very long ones are problematic I hear.

y2blade

56,254 posts

236 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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No noticeable difference to the naked eye


rolleyes the connoisseurs will be along to call me a liar (and I won't care less tbh)
I get my info from a Professional A/V system designer and integrator friend


buy cheap and be smug

coffee

PJ S

10,842 posts

248 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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http://www.analysis-plus.com/prod_videocable.html - make your own mind up if a cable is just a cable because the signal is digital.

callyman

3,184 posts

233 months

Friday 28th January 2011
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Depends what spec it is/what you require of it.

Versions so far are 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.2a, 1.3, 1.3a, 1.3b, 1.3b1, 1.3c, and the latest spec is now at 1.4

To carry a HD DTS and Dolby true HD signal you will need version 1.3 minimum.

I recently bought a Blu-ray player for the bedroom, and bought a currys essential cable £5.99, this didn't carry the video or audio signal as the version and speed capabilities of the lead was too low.
But a £20 lead from Argos did, because it was a higher spec lead.

So, yes there are differences in cable capabilities but a £20 and £100 cable at the same version will not give much if any noticeable difference.
As said above, if it says it can carry e.g. 1080p, then it will do the job perfectly well regardless of price.


Edited by callyman on Friday 28th January 21:49

Driller

8,310 posts

299 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Oh no, here we go again...

Road2Ruin

6,152 posts

237 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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y2blade said:
No noticeable difference to the naked eye


rolleyes the connoisseurs will be along to call me a liar (and I won't care less tbh)
I get my info from a Professional A/V system designer and integrator friend


buy cheap and be smug

coffee
Why would anyone call you a liar? As with all sound and vision it is purely subjective. Some people see a difference some don't. The 'it's digital, so it works or it doesn't' argument is cobblers. There will be a difference on a poorer standard cable (notice I didn't say cheaper) but on a short run you probably won't see it.

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

250 months

Saturday 29th January 2011
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Have a look on UKHDMI

Some well built cables on there.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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davepoth said:
It's digital. If it works, it's perfect quality. If it doesn't, it won't work.

I bought one for £3 in Lidl. Works absolutely fine.
Good luck getting your £3 cable to work in-wall.

The moisture from the new plaster will rot the cable and it'll fail.....which will then need to be dug out, replaced then the wall will need replastered and then decorated. So your £3 HDMI cable isn't that cheap after all.

Anybody who says that 'all HDMI cables are the same, they either work or they don't, so just buy the cheapest' is talking absolute bks.
You might as well say, 'all tyres are black and round, so just buy the cheapest.' rolleyes

http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/long-h...

fieldl

1,320 posts

252 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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mp3manager said:
Good luck getting your £3 cable to work in-wall.

The moisture from the new plaster will rot the cable and it'll fail.....which will then need to be dug out, replaced then the wall will need replastered and then decorated. So your £3 HDMI cable isn't that cheap after all.

Anybody who says that 'all HDMI cables are the same, they either work or they don't, so just buy the cheapest' is talking absolute bks.
You might as well say, 'all tyres are black and round, so just buy the cheapest.' rolleyes

http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/long-h...
Run it in conduit which is surely best practice anyway.......

mp3manager

4,254 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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fieldl said:
Run it in conduit which is surely best practice anyway.......
Obviously....but the point is you buy a product that is suited to the job.
In this case, HDMI cables that are CL-3 rated for in-wall use, as they will have been constructed and tested with that environment in mind.

I personally use Bettercables.

http://www.tmfsolutions.co.uk/bettercables_highspe...

CRACKIE

6,386 posts

263 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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These are very well made, picture quality is very good and pricing is sensible rather than yikes

http://www.thatcable.com/

headcase

2,389 posts

238 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/psg01097/lead-hd...

Ive used them for the past 7 years for in wall use, never had one fail. They are hight speed but no ethernet channel. Work with Blu-Ray 3D perfectly and dont cost you an arm and a leg either.

Driller

8,310 posts

299 months

Sunday 30th January 2011
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mp3manager said:
Good luck getting your £3 cable to work in-wall.

The moisture from the new plaster will rot the cable and it'll fail.....
Eh? Plaster dries very quickly and the cable exterior is plastic. I have had a 15M cable in plaster for 5 years, never skipped a beat.

Dibblington

328 posts

181 months

Monday 31st January 2011
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Oh jeez, not this again. Why don't people use the search before starting a new topic?

nigel mansell

2,752 posts

235 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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DaGuv said:
I need a new hdmi cable. I have seen ones on amazon for 1.34 which supports up to 1080p. However I was in Currys today and noticed you can spend upwards of 100 quid on a cable. Do they make much difference.
I bought 2 from Amazon at that price,both working fine.