LED.... OLED..... LED backlit LCD....?

[caduceus]

I currently have a Toshiba 32WL56P LCD which I bought in Jan 2005. It hums, its heavy and I'm not that impressed with the picture tbh. So with the sale of a car and a bit of toy money, I am thinking of upgrading to LED.

If I'm going to upgrade I want to be blown away by the picture quality this time. When I spent a grand on the Tosh in '05, I wasn't.

Can anyone tell me which LED tv I should be looking for, as there appears to be a mass of tvs that 'claim' to be LED. But now I'm only finding out some are actually LCD with LED backlight

A definition and recommendation would be most appreciated.

Thanks
Cad

[tdm34ds]

You've spotted the flaw! all LED sets are actually LCD with either edge or backlit LED arrays to provide the light source.

What size of TV are you interested in? and What budget have you to spend?

Don't discount Plasma TVs as there are some really stunning sets out there.

[derestrictor]

Size requirement/approximate viewing distance?

[caduceus]

derestrictor said:

Size requirement/approximate viewing distance?

Living room is 3.6 x 3.9 metres. Current viewing distance is approx 2.6 metres, but sat on a tv cabinet (which kind of defeats the object. Only other place/wall to put it has a radiator onder it. But on that wall it would be approx 3 metres viewing distance.

I have a 32 inch at the moment, and that doesn't seem too big for that size living room. If I can put it on the wall above the rad, I can go bigger. 40 inch...? Budget of approx 1k.

[derestrictor]

Best 32 by far Panasonic TX-L32D28; nice whatsit at the mo' on Sony's sublime 40NX803.

[caduceus]

derestrictor said:

Best 32 by far Panasonic TX-L32D28; nice whatsit at the mo' on Sony's sublime 40NX803.

Sorry, I should have said; I don't want another LCD. I want an LED...

[derestrictor]

It's probably the finest 40" set out there; aesthetically, subjectively, technically and for within the budget.

P.S. LED sets are merely back/edgelit LCD units; fwiw, the Pan 32 is so enabled, as is the 40" Sony.

[caduceus]

Are OLED just backlit LCD too then?

Thanks

[otherman]

caduceus said:

Are OLED just backlit LCD too then?

Thanks

Yes they are.

I'd recommend steering clear of sony and going with samsung or LG. I've never been very impressed with Sony's, I think the quality is all in the marketing and not in the product.

Why not go to comet or someplace and make your own decision though, rather than relying on reviews etc?

[derestrictor]

Oled schmoled! Au revoir kidney...

[derestrictor]

otherman said:

I'd recommend steering clear of sony and going with samsung or LG. I've never been very impressed with Sony's, I think the quality is all in the marketing and not in the product.

Good grief, no.

The 40NX803 is so far ahead of anything Korean it is remarkable; indeed, it's the only unit in this screen size fit to mix it with Panasonic's Kuro rivalling V20 chassis.

Even with variable bit rates and compressions (both standard and hi-def feeds) its ameliorative capacity renders the viewer with subjective quality streets ahead of almost everything.

In fact, the only LCD/LED set to get close is the Philips 40PFL9705 which is much coin.

Whilst there is some sympathy with the 'trading on former glories' accusation of Akio's mob, when Sony pull out the stops (as in this case) it still represents exceptional quality.

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otherman said:

Yes they are.

I'd recommend steering clear of sony and going with samsung or LG. I've never been very impressed with Sony's, I think the quality is all in the marketing and not in the product.

Why not go to comet or someplace and make your own decision though, rather than relying on reviews etc?

OLEDs are not backlit,

What OLED stands for gives you the clues to that.

[PJ S]

otherman said:

caduceus said:

Are OLED just backlit LCD too then?

Yes they are.

Err....no they are not!
No LC (liquid crystal) involved in a Light Emitting Diode.
Whilst Wikipedia can't be trusted to be 100% spot on, in this case it pretty much is - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emittin...

[caduceus]

I'm sorry but is there a definitive answer to the OLED and LCD with LED backlight question? Is there NO LED tv out there that is pure LED? Or are ALL LED tvs actually LCD with LED edge lighting or whatever it is? I'm not technical enough in this area to distinguish between opinion and fact.

I know what OLED means, organic yaada yaada. But I'm a pure novice just looking to get some sensible, informed and factual answers from specialists in this area. Once I know which category of tv has the purest/clearest picture, I'll then go for a recommended manufacturer.

Cheers

[rhinochopig]

caduceus said:

Are OLED just backlit LCD too then?

Thanks

Have a look at the price of an OLED set. LG do a 15" set - which is one of the biggest available and costs around £1500 so not exactly bargain. It'll be a while yet for them to be a practicable living room TV.

[PJ S]

caduceus said:

I'm sorry but is there a definitive answer to the OLED and LCD with LED backlight question? Is there NO LED tv out there that is pure LED? Or are ALL LED tvs actually LCD with LED edge lighting or whatever it is? I'm not technical enough in this area to distinguish between opinion and fact.

I know what OLED means, organic yaada yaada. But I'm a pure novice just looking to get some sensible, informed and factual answers from specialists in this area. Once I know which category of tv has the purest/clearest picture, I'll then go for a recommended manufacturer.

Cheers

LED are what the stadium/touring screens use, in a matrix of RGB LEDs and stacked "cabinets" (for ease of moving), but LED TVs are nothing more than conventional LCD pixels using white LEDs behind them (instead of the more common and cheaper Cold Cathode Fluorescent Light) or around the edge of the panel (hence edge-lit moniker).
OLED is not really ready yet for prime time - some early adopters have them on mobile phones, and Sony/LG have small displays, at big money. I still think there's an issue over the longevity of blue OLED, unless that's been resolved.
But you're not going to see OLED in large format at semi-sensible prices for at least another 5 years at the very earliest.
Plasma is currently the best technology for large domestic displays, and even though Pioneer are coming back with LCD TVs through their partner Sharp, the KURO technology is now in Panasonic's hands, along with many of Pioneer's engineers who developed it.
So, to that end, get yourself a 42G20 Plasma from Panasonic, and enjoy watching/gaming/etc.
That or hang fire for a few more months to see what the new 30 Series offers.

[caduceus]

PJ S said:

LED are what the stadium/touring screens use, in a matrix of RGB LEDs and stacked "cabinets" (for ease of moving), but LED TVs are nothing more than conventional LCD pixels using white LEDs behind them (instead of the more common and cheaper Cold Cathode Fluorescent Light) or around the edge of the panel (hence edge-lit moniker).
OLED is not really ready yet for prime time - some early adopters have them on mobile phones, and Sony/LG have small displays, at big money. I still think there's an issue over the longevity of blue OLED, unless that's been resolved.
But you're not going to see OLED in large format at semi-sensible prices for at least another 5 years at the very earliest.
Plasma is currently the best technology for large domestic displays, and even though Pioneer are coming back with LCD TVs through their partner Sharp, the KURO technology is now in Panasonic's hands, along with many of Pioneer's engineers who developed it.
So, to that end, get yourself a 42G20 Plasma from Panasonic, and enjoy watching/gaming/etc.
That or hang fire for a few more months to see what the new 30 Series offers.

Thank you

[headcase]

derestrictor said:

Best 32 by far Panasonic TX-L32D28; nice whatsit at the mo' on Sony's sublime 40NX803.

If its anything like the D25 then its a LG in a Panna cabinet with a Panna main board. I dont rate any of the LED's yet, ive not seen one that handles motion, they look good in the shop due to there over bright screens, but after you have you spent your monies you will see why you shouldnt have bought one.

[BliarOut]

Sorry, are you saying the Panny has an LG display?

[headcase]

The last one I did a screen swap on was, LG Display, LG psu, Panna Cab and Panna main board. They seem to suffer with backlight bleeds in the corners, ive done a few of them now.