Broken Engine Noble M12 GTO 3
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Hello everyone, I am a new owner just bought a noble. Unfortunately I did not have time to travel 50 kilometers and my engine broke.
Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
trasportocavalli said:
Hello everyone, I am a new owner just bought a noble. Unfortunately I did not have time to travel 50 kilometers and my engine broke.
Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
Gutted for you mate, Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
Not good . im sure that after fixing the problem and getting a few miles on the clock the car will put a big smile on your face and this bad start will be a distant memory. Welcome to the nobilityAll new bottom end from ford is 2k, has new block,crank, bearings, pistons, rings, oil pump etc... only difference between this bottom end is noble use shorter stronger rods and block is machined for spray jets.
When my engine seized on the motorway it had actually dropped 2 valves and took out the entire engine so I really hope its only your bearings etc, but if its seized Id say its likely to something more serious Im afraid.
good luck
When my engine seized on the motorway it had actually dropped 2 valves and took out the entire engine so I really hope its only your bearings etc, but if its seized Id say its likely to something more serious Im afraid.
good luck
trasportocavalli said:
Hello everyone, I am a new owner just bought a noble. Unfortunately I did not have time to travel 50 kilometers and my engine broke.
Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
Contact Alessandro at UK Racing SRL in Milan. He can help you regarding fixing your Noble.Until I tried the first four gears, no problem.
but after I pulled twice in the sixth, unfortunately, I started hearing a noise from the engine.
now the engine is locked at all. I have yet to open it to see what has happened.
I think I have to change to secure the bushings ( I hope BUSHINGS is a correct translation) but what scares me most is the crankshaft (i hope CRANKSHAFT is correct) . I hope that we have not broken or marked.
how can I do? I live in Italy. And 'if I buy the same crankshaft ford or jaguar?
I know that the pistons are the same, while the engine connecting rods are rather different. I know how to give some advice? there would be grateful.
thanks in advance and sorry for my english style...
YellowShed
Thank you all for giving me the answer is given your advice.
Now my noble, I took her own garage in alexandrite of the UK will start to dismantle the beginning of February.
But if there are any serious damage I would find the cheapest solution to fix the engine.
AER I have contacted and am waiting for the quote.
With regard to to the history of the seller , I do not know how things work in England . I turned to Paul NAIDEL in Italy to make me send the noble.
But absolutely not responding correctly PAUL NAIDEL engine broke it somehow helped me contact the person who sold me the noble or at least the previous owner.
So I do not even know who rivals.
Now my noble, I took her own garage in alexandrite of the UK will start to dismantle the beginning of February.
But if there are any serious damage I would find the cheapest solution to fix the engine.
AER I have contacted and am waiting for the quote.
With regard to to the history of the seller , I do not know how things work in England . I turned to Paul NAIDEL in Italy to make me send the noble.
But absolutely not responding correctly PAUL NAIDEL engine broke it somehow helped me contact the person who sold me the noble or at least the previous owner.
So I do not even know who rivals.
today was the oil pan removed. At first sight we saw two broken rods. well now we have to evaluate if the motor has been ruined or not.
If the motor is in good condition, you can easily retrieve the connecting rods and crankshaft? cost so much?
I ask this because I calculated how much it costs to buy the entire engine in America and shipped from America to Italy. with taxes and shipping you get to pay about U.S. dollars 7000/8000
Give me some advice on how to behave? thanks
If the motor is in good condition, you can easily retrieve the connecting rods and crankshaft? cost so much?
I ask this because I calculated how much it costs to buy the entire engine in America and shipped from America to Italy. with taxes and shipping you get to pay about U.S. dollars 7000/8000
Give me some advice on how to behave? thanks
anything today, we evaluated the engine. unfortunately is a disaster. Everything melted and cast into it. Routes connecting rods, pistons out of place, drive shaft disintegrated.
Unfortunately, the engine seems to have been assembled only to be set in motion and make a few kilometers.
I took a good rip-off by the former owner of my noble.
Now I am in trouble because I do not know where to turn.
I have already contacted JETSTREAM MOTOR SPORT, PETER SMITH, SOUTH WEST LOTUS CENTRE another supplier of parts and NOBLE.
But so far no response. I do not know how much it costs a complete engine in England or Europe. Do you have any ideas?
I have already discarded the idea of taking the engine from AER in America because I was discouraged. They told me that besides having a higher compression ratio, their engines are engines of ground (revised) and I have a bit of fear.
Tips?
Unfortunately, it is also unnecessary to publish the photos because the engine is irretrievable, we are 100% sure.
Unfortunately, the engine seems to have been assembled only to be set in motion and make a few kilometers.
I took a good rip-off by the former owner of my noble.
Now I am in trouble because I do not know where to turn.
I have already contacted JETSTREAM MOTOR SPORT, PETER SMITH, SOUTH WEST LOTUS CENTRE another supplier of parts and NOBLE.
But so far no response. I do not know how much it costs a complete engine in England or Europe. Do you have any ideas?
I have already discarded the idea of taking the engine from AER in America because I was discouraged. They told me that besides having a higher compression ratio, their engines are engines of ground (revised) and I have a bit of fear.
Tips?
Unfortunately, it is also unnecessary to publish the photos because the engine is irretrievable, we are 100% sure.
is any of the engine salvageable?.. for example rocker covers, sump etc etc?
Some of these parts are hard to get and expensive so knowing whats salvageable would be a benefit
pictures of the engine would be good... it is possible that you didn't have a noble engine at all and just a std ford engine as Im amazed its exploded!
are you intending to try to find second hand parts to build up or an all new engine?
Some of these parts are hard to get and expensive so knowing whats salvageable would be a benefit
pictures of the engine would be good... it is possible that you didn't have a noble engine at all and just a std ford engine as Im amazed its exploded!
are you intending to try to find second hand parts to build up or an all new engine?
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