Cheap Pork Trackday Car

[rico]

I've been thinking about post uni cars, and i've found some stripped out SCs for well under £10k. I was thinking of keeping the 306 as a normal car and then picking one of these up as a trackday/hooning car.

Seen this one at Shirleys for £8950.

1981 Porsche 911 SC Coupe (Track/Rally Car)
Stripped out with Full Roll Cage/ Race Seats and Harness. Great for weekend Track, Sprint or Rally Use. Ready to go or have a Performance Upgrade to your specification. (Contact Martin Brown of Porsche Tech as detailed above .. . . . .



As i know sweet fk all about these kind of cars, anything to look out for?

Its either a similar car to this or a Caterham, but im thinking a tail happy Porker with full cage would probably be more fun and safer than an open-top Caterham... and its a Porker

[domster]

Anything to look out for? Yup:

1) Look out for Caterhams as they will run rings around you.

2) Look out for a LHD 968CS with its cams done as it will be much better bet than this SC at the same money.

You utter nugget!!!! LOL, see you at lunch.
D

[neon_fox]

I would have thought a 944S2 or TurboS or 968CS would be a much better bet as a track day toy, and much better to learn about chassis dynamics too. My 968CS was an excellent introduction to advanced car control.

But, I must admit that this does seem like it could be an interesting proposition, but you'd have to ascertain that the spec of the car and the way it's been set up suit your driving style, otherwise you could be throwing a whole bunch more cash at it to sort it out... (even assuming it's not a :lemon:

Fox
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P.S. Admin: Really need a lemon smiley...

[rico]

domster said:

Anything to look out for? Yup: 1) Look out for Caterhams as they will run rings around you. 2) Look out for a LHD 968CS with its cams done as it will be much better bet than this SC at the same money. You utter nugget!!!! LOL, see you at lunch. D

I'm just keeping my options open Dom... ya know... bit of a change from the norm... bit like your pink jeans you wore to VW

[cuneus]

Take one 944 turbo

stir in 968CS anti roll bars
Mix with upgraded suspension
marinade with a chip/boost contoller kit

serve a car that will run rings round a 968CS and not be quite so ugly

[james s]

and there is similar 944 turbo currnetly in classifieds for £4,500 which I have used for exaclty this tracking / hooning purpose. I have a 968 CS too and I would guess the 944 is a great deal faster on all but the most twisty of circuits.

[d5hef]

Is that not the car 911 and Porsche World gave away in a competition at the end of last year, after a complete refurbishment?

I seem to recall it was a metallic blue heap when they started...or am I wrong?

[clubsport]

The whole thing has schoolboy day dream about it..sorry Rico.....but there is a lot you have to look out for.

Such a car is obviously used on track, track miles are way harder on a car than road miles.
You have to consider the expense of track use, the consumables of brakes, tyres and even clutches are not cheap.
In fact there is rarely such a thing as a cheap porker, you can buy them cheap and spend a fortune to put them right.

I would look out for a car that has been looked after by an owner for a few years with wads of service history. these cars come up on PH classifieds, Porker post, 911 & PW for example. I really wouldn't expect to spend less than £10k. Once you have found what appears to be a sound car, then it is well worth spending the money on an inspection fee with a specialist, to ensure you are not about to spend £3k on a top end rebuild or £500-£1000 on suspension components.

With respect to tail happy Porker, in other than the most experienced hands (not mine) the 911 have enough traction at the back end not to be tail happy..In fact if the back end does break it could well be tail unhappy as your Porker leaves the road backwards.

The 944/968 are the tail happy ones,,I had fun drifting my old 968Cs on track,,,a great Porsche in it's own right but somehow the 911 experience is way more satisfying.

[clapham993]

clubsport said:

The whole thing has schoolboy day dream about it..sorry Rico.....but there is a lot you have to look out for. Such a car is obviously used on track, track miles are way harder on a car than road miles. You have to consider the expense of track use, the consumables of brakes, tyres and even clutches are not cheap. In fact there is rarely such a thing as a cheap porker, you can buy them cheap and spend a fortune to put them right. I would look out for a car that has been looked after by an owner for a few years with wads of service history. these cars come up on PH classifieds, Porker post, 911 & PW for example. I really wouldn't expect to spend less than £10k. Once you have found what appears to be a sound car, then it is well worth spending the money on an inspection fee with a specialist, to ensure you are not about to spend £3k on a top end rebuild or £500-£1000 on suspension components. With respect to tail happy Porker, in other than the most experienced hands (not mine) the 911 have enough traction at the back end not to be tail happy..In fact if the back end does break it could well be tail unhappy as your Porker leaves the road backwards. The 944/968 are the tail happy ones,,I had fun drifting my old 968Cs on track,,,a great Porsche in it's own right but somehow the 911 experience is way more satisfying.

Sense is being talked here - listen up young man!

Echo the sentiment that, for all but the most accomplished, any 911 has only two states of traction; 1) total adhesion and
2) Random projectile + high speed passenger

The transition time between 1) and 2) doesn't even give you time to mutter "what the...."

[ultra violent]

I would temper that with, a good operational LSD can be a god send. Saved me on more than one occasion. However, it'll cost more and the day you rely on it, is the day it all ends in tears....

[rico]

Thanks for all the fantastic advice. I know it was a bit of a daydreaming moment, saw the car, liked the look, decent price...

I'm not in the position to buy at least for another year, but pondering different cars is what makes buying a new car so much fun.

The 968cs is the most likely car and has been for the last few months since Dom first recommended it. Just looking at alternatives

[Bananaman]

If your wanting purely a trackday car then get a Se7en of some description, It'll be cheaper, quicker & more rewarding/involving than most Porkers & the running costs i.e. wear & tear items, insurance will be much more affordable.
What you've got to remember is a 7 will weight approx 1/2 the weight of a 911/944/968 therfor will only need 1/2 the power & will handle a lot better.
I owen a 944S2 & a Westfield & can honestley say that the 944 feel like a slug in comparison.
I also owen a Volvo TDi Estate & the difference between this & the 944 is a fair bit less than the difference between the 944 & the Westfield.

Ill get off my now

[domster]

You are right Bananaman. No need to step off the when speaking the humble truth

[aceparts_com]

Is there not a 993 LHD in the back of 911 & p world this month for about £11K? Flood damaged or something that would make a good track car?
Alan

[rico]

aceparts_com said:

Is there not a 993 LHD in the back of 911 & p world this month for about £11K? Flood damaged or something that would make a good track car? Alan

I haven't got the mag but that sounds interesting...

So i assume flood damage means all the interior carpets etc are screwed... but then i'd rip them out and replace with some kick plates, rollcage and bucket seats anyway...

or would the engine be flooded as well?

[rubystone]

I'd be more worried about damage to the electronics than the carpet - flood damage often writes off cars due to the cost of replacing the electrical elements.