Helmet Cams
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AyBee

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11,311 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Following on from this article linky - does anyone here ride with a camera on their helmet? If so, what camera do you use and has it ever been useful or is it completely a case of defensive riding, everyone else on the road is a muppet? hehe

Disclaimer: If you treat everyone on the road as a muppet then you're more prepared for any eventualities. Said person may or may not actually be a muppet biggrin

Roman

2,034 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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AyBee said:
Following on from this article linky - does anyone here ride with a camera on their helmet? If so, what camera do you use and has it ever been useful or is it completely a case of defensive riding, everyone else on the road is a muppet? hehe

Disclaimer: If you treat everyone on the road as a muppet then you're more prepared for any eventualities. Said person may or may not actually be a muppet biggrin
yes

Here's a still taken from mine:


eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I saw something on this on the BBC news this morning and was quite shocked at how agressive one of the cyclists was being, he could see exactly what a van was doing yet made no effort to avoid it at all, the van drivers response was way OTT but the cyclist didn't help matters imho.

Magic919

14,460 posts

230 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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People with helmet cams since to be involved in a greater number of incidents with other road users. So I don't use one.

fixedwheelnut

744 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I use one occasionally, an Oregon Scientific ,cheaper older model. Never used it yet to report anything.
I treat it as if nobody can see me and ride accordingly, you get a few near misses regularly it only really riles me if it is 'malicious' or 'nearly kills me'

AyBee

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11,311 posts

231 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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eybic said:
I saw something on this on the BBC news this morning and was quite shocked at how agressive one of the cyclists was being, he could see exactly what a van was doing yet made no effort to avoid it at all, the van drivers response was way OTT but the cyclist didn't help matters imho.
yes Have to agree with this - he was shouting when he could see full well what the van driver was going to do and could have saved himself a lot of hassle by sticking his brakes on and just letting the idiot of a van driver get on with it. Although pleased to see the van driver got 5 points or something for his trouble hehe

fixedwheelnut

744 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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AyBee said:
yes Have to agree with this - he was shouting when he could see full well what the van driver was going to do and could have saved himself a lot of hassle by sticking his brakes on and just letting the idiot of a van driver get on with it. Although pleased to see the van driver got 5 points or something for his trouble hehe
It may have been the straw that broke the camels back, I got cut up five times in one morning and sorry to say number five copped the lot when I lost my rag as he overtook and cut in on me biggrin

It is difficult to tell how hard the cyclist had to brake to avoid the collision as well, either way the van drivers reaction was well over the top.

lenandsons

1,325 posts

262 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Was looking to get one for when I did the Argus this year, reckon it would be a great way to preserve the memories, but at over $200 for the one I wanted, I reckon it can wait a while smile

Fluffsri

3,410 posts

225 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Ive bought one of these

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?c...

Just waiting for it to arrive now.

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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After an "altercation" last night with a red light jumper I was wondering if helmet cam footage would have been any use if I reported him to the BIB, could they prosecute on the strength of it?

AyBee

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11,311 posts

231 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Fluffsri said:
Ive bought one of these

http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?c...

Just waiting for it to arrive now.
yikes Less than £20 - I might get one for my helmet, one for the handlebars and one for backwards at that price hehe Let me know if they're any good biggrin

Fluffsri

3,410 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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AyBee said:
yikes Less than £20 - I might get one for my helmet, one for the handlebars and one for backwards at that price hehe Let me know if they're any good biggrin
IF it turns up Ill post up a vid. Having problems finding out where it is as it was dispatched on 13/01/11.

WillieSkelly

28 posts

309 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Allow me to save you the trouble. I have one that I use on my lid for my daily commute. Good job.

Some early sample footage here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MekC9Dbnh8g

It's now much steadier as I've reposition it, velcroed it and held it on with a single cable tie. It records in a loop by the way.

Willie

S6PNJ

5,834 posts

310 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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A great website for these tiny cams is http://www.chucklohr.com/808/ A lot of it might be irrelevant, but I'm sure some will be useful. I have 2 of the keyring cams and they are ok to play with, not in the least bit waterproof though!

AyBee

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11,311 posts

231 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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WillieSkelly said:
Allow me to save you the trouble. I have one that I use on my lid for my daily commute. Good job.

Some early sample footage here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MekC9Dbnh8g

It's now much steadier as I've reposition it, velcroed it and held it on with a single cable tie. It records in a loop by the way.

Willie
Was that really produced from that less than £20 camera? Is it safe to say you're happy with it/the attachments that it comes with?

ETA: Any chance you could post a pic of it attached to your helmet when you get a moment please? smile

Edited by AyBee on Friday 4th February 09:38

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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WillieSkelly said:
Allow me to save you the trouble. I have one that I use on my lid for my daily commute. Good job.
"In the process of taking video, if no interferance, it will auto save the video files every 5 minutes. When the memory is full ,the device will auto delete the files taken, then continue to record


Recording time about 3 hours
Standby time: 5-6 hours"

So it records 3 hours worth of video but saves it in 5 minute chunks? When you download it on your computer do you just get lots of 5 minute segment files then?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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What is the battery life? "5-6 Stand by" wouldn't equal much recording time? does anyone know if there any others on the market with slightly better resolution doesn't need to be 1080p but 720 video would be good, equally as cheap, ok I could stretch to sub £50.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 4th February 10:25

WillieSkelly

28 posts

309 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Hi,

Sorry for the delay. This pic is from the initial fitting. I now have it mounted to be a slightly higher angle (So further back), with a single cable tie around the front of it and through the vents. The rear is kept from shimmying about by two bits of 3M self-adhesive industrial strength velcro on the helmet, and the hook bit stuck to the camera. It stops vibration nicely.




Helmet is in full commuter winter mode. Camera will actually record for about 3-4hours on battery according to my friend who left his switched on to see. I only use mine for my commute and some fooling around on cars etc, so I've never actually ran the battery flat.

It comes with a 12V charger and can charge and record at the same time, so for incar use it's perfect. It's not waterproof, so don't expect it to be fantastic.

Actual footage is better than the Youtube clip shows, Youtube downsamples it. With the steadier mounting on my helmet, it's now better...although I still look down alot. See this clip for the updated version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftu34U-h6p4

Go for the one with the card included as if you get a cheapo card from eBay, it might be a lesser spec and some people have said they get slow patches in the video with the cheaper cards.

And yep, this is all from a sub £20 camera. I think they're fantastic. They're not Sony standard by any means, and you may need to send the first one back like I did, but for the money they're great for our use. I run a Caterham hire business, and I wanted cheap cameras to mount to the car for fun footage, but that I wouldn't cry if it fell off in the process. I think that just sums them up. If you want a super camera to get great video and you'll look after it, this is not for you. If you want something to play around with, strap to different bits of your bike or use as a commuter camera...this is ideal.

Willie

Fluffsri

3,410 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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Still waiting for mine, seems to have been lost in the post frown

a11y_m

1,861 posts

251 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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FFS I'm a complete numpty...

I too have the same camera as pictured above. I previously used a more upright design of sub-£15 camera (a copy of the Muvi Micro DV) but the battery died. So I ordered that one. Embarrassingly I thought mine was f**ked as it kept stopping, then restarting at 5-minute intervals. I didn't realise it was supposed to do that, perhaps I should RTFM sometimes paperbag

Anyway, quality on these is "OK" but not great in low light due to the small sensor I guess. But they're great being so small and inobtrusive. Incidentally, I used mine for filming on my MTB too and they're OK for that, but I'm not considering a basic Go Pro Hero camera for around £100 for MTBing (quality is a step above).

I've previously posted on this subject after an incident which I recorded: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... (the jist is that I recorded the incident, reported it to the police who didn't do anything and didn't even want to view my video as they claimed it couldn't be used as evidence, apparently). Video is posted halfway down that page but here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMCZgLaOi-w