Battery relocation question. (spare wheel well)
Battery relocation question. (spare wheel well)
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AdamOCC

Original Poster:

5 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Hi guys, i was wondering if anyone has experience of relocating the battery to the rear of the car, specificly for me, the spare wheel well.

I drive a mk4 astra sri turbo that i am building up to about 350 bhp ish. And i want a little more space smile

If anyone has any advice for me to do this then please let me know, thanks in advance.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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So where is the spare wheel going?

I'm not in favour of putting batteries in the boot unless they are separated from the passengers by a good thick layer of steel. If you have a huge accident or somebody piles into the back of you lots of stuff will end up where it shouldn't be, bolted down or not, and being splashed with acid would not be fun.

In addition the spare wheel tends to be in a crush zone which makes the situation even worse.

AdamOCC

Original Poster:

5 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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I don't use a spare wheel as i have different alloys and wheel spacers so wouldnt fit on anyway. Plus i have a couple of cans of tyre weld in the car as always.

Was just an idea, I have seen 'battery boxes' which allows you to relocate to the rear.

You are right with regards to the crash situation, i never thought of it in that depth, as said, was just an idea.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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The battery boxes that are fibreglass or moulded plastic will just crush up in a heavy smash. Try to look at some major impacts on You Tube of vehicles of your type in rear smashes and visualise what will happen.

I have seen a lot of crashed cars as part of my job and the above is probably the best way I can think of to help you understand where I am coming from.

AdamOCC

Original Poster:

5 posts

183 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Ok thanks for the info. What if i used a varley lightweight battery??

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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AdamOCC said:
Ok thanks for the info. What if i used a varley lightweight battery??
I don't know much about them. It might be a good option if you could mount it under the car.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

270 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Sulphuric acid in the concentration used in a car battery isn't a real problem. I've been splashed with it on more than one occasion. The greatest risk is embarrassment from all the holes in your clothes. It tastes lovely, too - like lemonade (as Victorian-era sellers of dodgy lemonade well knew).

However if you are worried about it a gel battery might be the answer.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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Pigeon said:
Sulphuric acid in the concentration used in a car battery isn't a real problem. I've been splashed with it on more than one occasion. The greatest risk is embarrassment from all the holes in your clothes. It tastes lovely, too - like lemonade (as Victorian-era sellers of dodgy lemonade well knew).

However if you are worried about it a gel battery might be the answer.
So let's suppose you have a mega-accident and stuff flies everywhere. Even gel could cause problems.

Do the job properly - keep batteries out of the passenger cell.

phillpot

17,476 posts

207 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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GavinPearson said:
o let's suppose you have a mega-accident and stuff flies everywhere. Even gel could cause problems.
Think if things got that bad a bit of battery gel would probably be the least of your problems ?

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Saturday 5th February 2011
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I've had the fortune to be able to look at some cars that have had very high speed crashes and you can walk away from some unbelieveably messy accidents when the manufacturer has put a considerable amount of thought and effort into making the vehicle crashworthy.

But it would be a pity to survive an accident only to have severe acid burns.

So again, my view is keep the battery out of the passenger compartment.

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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GavinPearson said:
Even gel could cause problems.
What specific problems?

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

275 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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agent006 said:
What specific problems?
Specifically burning you if it specifically comes into contact with you when the case gets fractured.


agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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I just typed out a huge reply to this but you won't listen so:

Yes, you're right. Would you like a blowjob now?

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Sunday 6th February 2011
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How about putting the battery under the rear seat?

http://www.zeebuck.com/bimmers/tech/batteryrelocat...


Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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GavinPearson said:
So again, my view is keep the battery out of the passenger compartment.
I guess all those TVR and MGB drivers should think about relocating their batteries then. And virtually every rally car and circuit car.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

228 months

Monday 7th February 2011
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Mr2Mike said:
GavinPearson said:
So again, my view is keep the battery out of the passenger compartment.
I guess all those TVR and MGB drivers should think about relocating their batteries then. And virtually every rally car and circuit car.
And my BMW 330d has it in the boot, in the rear right corner under the tail lights. It has a plastic lid on it. The rear seats have a metal bulkhead between them and the boot though.

I'd say that the main concern with putting a battery in the boot is the wiring to get power to the starter motor. It will need to be feckin HUGE. (Note, 'thick' car stereo amp wire is no where near up to the job. You will need to get proper solid copper core wire which was designed for the job of relocating starter batteries to the boot. I've seen the wire used in my BMW and it's about as thick as my thumb, and I've got big hands.)

Edited by mrmr96 on Tuesday 8th February 11:03

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

279 months

Tuesday 8th February 2011
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mrmr96 said:
I'd say that the main concern with putting a battery in the boot is the wiring to get power to the starter motor. It will need to be feckin HUGE.
Agreed, and even more importantly it needs to be installed properly. I've seen numerous bodged installs where the battery cable has been fed through sharp holes in sheet steel with no grommets etc.

DaveL485

2,768 posts

221 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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GavinPearson said:
Pigeon said:
Sulphuric acid in the concentration used in a car battery isn't a real problem. I've been splashed with it on more than one occasion. The greatest risk is embarrassment from all the holes in your clothes. It tastes lovely, too - like lemonade (as Victorian-era sellers of dodgy lemonade well knew).

However if you are worried about it a gel battery might be the answer.
So let's suppose you have a mega-accident and stuff flies everywhere. Even gel could cause problems.

Do the job properly - keep batteries out of the passenger cell.
You wont like mine then. Where the n/s rear seat used to be, close enough to disconnect when strapped into my 4-point smile


anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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DaveL485 said:
You wont like mine then. Where the n/s rear seat used to be, close enough to disconnect when strapped into my 4-point smile

Crickey that's gonna hurt when it hits you on the back of the head........

SplatSpeed

7,491 posts

275 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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look at jags

they have the battery in the boot!