Yemen in 5,4,3,2.......
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tinman0

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18,231 posts

270 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/us-yemen...

Looks like Yemen is next! President is making plans for an exit. (Albeit in 2 years).

Puggit

49,821 posts

278 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Yemen is a worry. They have a large al-qaeda movement and a separate uprising to deal with and the country is far more at risk of turning in to something nasty.

FourWheelDrift

92,356 posts

314 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Yemen's small oil reserves are said to be running out in the next 5-6 years. Which is their only source of serious income, yet they are still very poor. When that goes it'll be anarchy so we do have to do something soon to stabilise that area either directly or indirectly via Saudi Arabia. Being where it is geographically any anarchy could seriously effect shipping through Suez to a higher degree than Somalia currently does.

Of course when I said "we" I mean the UN. We sure as hell aren't going to be doing anything on our own again or with our speshal friends only. Not while Obama is still there.

Biggles111

467 posts

293 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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I am currently in Yemen (left Cairo last Wednesday just as things were kicking off there). Locals in Yemen are quite worried, expats less so as most of us were already at a high alert state.

The situation is very different to Egypt though as there it was the urban population who wanted change. Here it is the pro-islamist rural population who want change. Facebook, twitter etc are relatively unknown amongst the rural population, although there is an element of copying tactics from Egypt.

Tomorrow's event sounds quite large, so am off to stock up on provisions 'in case'...The President has done his best to pre-empt any issues though so will hopefully prevail - Yemen of all places needs stability at this time.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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State of emergency declared, 39 killed..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-127835...


Just impose a no-fly over the whole of the Middle East (except Israel of course).



Edited by Mermaid on Friday 18th March 19:35

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Saudi Arabia is probably pulling strings in Yemen too. We're going to have a row with them fairly soon I think.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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davepoth said:
Saudi Arabia is probably pulling strings in Yemen too. We're going to have a row with them fairly soon I think.
The UK/US need to sequester all Saudi assets abroad, and of course its oil fields. wink

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

212 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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davepoth said:
Saudi Arabia is probably pulling strings in Yemen too. We're going to have a row with them fairly soon I think.
Saudi Arabia and Iran have been fighting a proxy war in Yemen, on and off, for quite a while now.

Sometimes I think we're backing the wrong block. Iran, minus Ahmedi Nijad & the Mullahs would make a much better friend than the Wahabi dominated states like Saudi Arabia. As we move forward and these leaders leave I would not be surprised to see us allying with Iran/Iraq (the Shiite block) more so than their Sunni neighbours.

Edited by Victor McDade on Friday 18th March 19:47

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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+1. Iranians as a people are far more western aligned than the rest of the Middle East; certainly it's been that way in my dealings out there. If they could get rid of their mental government Iran would be a good friend, with lots of oil. Then we can make Saudi go and play on its own.

Blib

48,213 posts

227 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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davepoth said:
Saudi Arabia is probably pulling strings in Yemen too. We're going to have a row with them fairly soon I think.
About time too. And, while we're at it, let's "have a word" with Iran. The latter were out bestest mates before Khomeini (sp)

smile

Smiler.

11,752 posts

260 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Biggles111 said:
I am currently in Yemen...........
Where abouts if you don't mind me asking?

ErnestM

11,621 posts

297 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Some dust ups in Syria as well...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/18/syria.ri...

Bashar is NOT his Dad, that's for sure. The real power is the military so I don't like the chances of these demonstrators.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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ErnestM said:
Some dust ups in Syria as well...

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/03/18/syria.ri...

Bashar is NOT his Dad, that's for sure. The real power is the military so I don't like the chances of these demonstrators.
Alphabet game here

We have B, E, L, S, T, Y - have I missed any biggrin.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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This is how Saudis prevent/delay problems..... hand out money

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/...

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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davepoth said:
+1. Iranians as a people are far more western aligned than the rest of the Middle East; certainly it's been that way in my dealings out there. If they could get rid of their mental government Iran would be a good friend, with lots of oil. Then we can make Saudi go and play on its own.
Agreed.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
davepoth said:
+1. Iranians as a people are far more western aligned than the rest of the Middle East; certainly it's been that way in my dealings out there. If they could get rid of their mental government Iran would be a good friend, with lots of oil. Then we can make Saudi go and play on its own.
Agreed.
Agreed. Interesting, none of the Muslims terrorists (9/11, 7/7, others) has been linked to Iran AFAIK.

Prince Jefri

1,971 posts

199 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
davepoth said:
+1. Iranians as a people are far more western aligned than the rest of the Middle East; certainly it's been that way in my dealings out there. If they could get rid of their mental government Iran would be a good friend, with lots of oil. Then we can make Saudi go and play on its own.
Agreed.
Agreed. Interesting, none of the Muslims terrorists (9/11, 7/7, others) has been linked to Iran AFAIK.
We've banked that one for another day once Iraq, Libya, etc, etc....run out!

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

212 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Jimbeaux said:
davepoth said:
+1. Iranians as a people are far more western aligned than the rest of the Middle East; certainly it's been that way in my dealings out there. If they could get rid of their mental government Iran would be a good friend, with lots of oil. Then we can make Saudi go and play on its own.
Agreed.
Maybe I'm being a bit stereotypical here but I've always found Iranians less religiously centric than their Arab neighbours. Publicly most Iranians accept their Islamic identity, however, most are also aware of their pre-Islamic Persian identity which goes back thousands of years. They are not an artificially created state which needs religion as a centre point to control society and give them a sense of belonging.

Obviously post revolution the Ayatollahs and leaders like the current one are trying to change this, but personally I feel the change is temporary and when their next revolution comes it will be for the better.

Oh, and most that I've met love a good drink smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Victor McDade said:
Oh, and most that I've met love a good drink smile
& the women are very good looking. wink

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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Mermaid said:
& the women are very good looking. wink
The drinking is fairly epic I'm told. Tehran was a real party town for those with the means back in the 60s.

And on the women, I think it's the modicum of modesty that's so alluring.