Paint? Johnstones? Leyland? Dulux?
Paint? Johnstones? Leyland? Dulux?
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TooLateForAName

Original Poster:

4,914 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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I know there are some decorators on here so I'd like recommendations for paint.

I'm after a very matt finish and my inclination is to use dulux. However the two nearest suppliers use Johnstones and Leyland which I've no knowledge of. Are they any good ?

thanks

rovermorris999

5,321 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Farrow and Ball Estate emulsion is the stuff for you. Not the cheapest but if you want flat it's the stuff to use.
http://www.farrow-ball.com/interior-walls-ceilings...

TooLateForAName

Original Poster:

4,914 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Cheers,

I've used F&B in the past, but my last experience of their products was terrible.

I bought some of their limewash which I found very, very poor.

rovermorris999

5,321 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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I've never used the limewash but the the oil gloss and estate emulsion are excellent. I think I'd make my own limewash!

ChrisnChris

1,424 posts

246 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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I'm not a painter myself but 2 chaps I used to use wouldn't use Farrow & ball, it was mainly vinyl silk though, because "it's too sticky"

TooLateForAName

Original Poster:

4,914 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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rovermorris999 said:
I've never used the limewash but the the oil gloss and estate emulsion are excellent. I think I'd make my own limewash!
Usually I do, but I needed a colour match.

Zippee

13,947 posts

258 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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We used a Farrow & Ball matt emulsion in our lounge for one 18' long wall, it took almost 5 litres to get a decent coverage over a plain white base. Lovely colour but 4 coats to do one wall was a bit much, especially as the dulux paint we used on the other 3 walls in the lounge required only 1.

Zip106

15,898 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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F & B paint is pretty good now days but is expensive but the colour and depth of colours are fantastic.

If you want a very matt finish on walls then either F&B or you could try Little Green Paint Co.
Be warned though - if it's very matt then you'll see every finger print/mark on it and you won't be able to wipe it.

Matt paint needs to have vinyl in it to make it hard wearing on walls (ceilings not such an issue - the matter the better).

I personally use Dulux inside at home as I've got two young kids, and it's more than a match to them.

Simpo Two

91,503 posts

289 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Zip106 said:
I personally use Dulux inside at home as I've got two young kids, and it's more than a match to them.
You used Toddler Pink?

Zip106

15,898 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Simpo Two said:
You used Toddler Pink?
Alabaster pink, hactually. smile


(no point me editing my last post, now!)

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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i've been using dulux trade and it's much better than their standard stuff. also much pricier.

TooLateForAName

Original Poster:

4,914 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Cheers Guys.

Looks Like Dulux then.

Z4monster

1,442 posts

284 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Both Johnstones and Leyland are usually used by tradesman than the home painter. They are excellent products and easily as good as Dulux.

I go to a trade only place and they stock way more of these two because that's what the trade use.

Zip106

15,898 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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They probably stock more Jonnos and Leyland because Dulux have their own trade stores.
Any trade place selling Dulux won't be getting it very cheaply therefore they'll stock and sell more other branded paint.

Johnstones is almost comparable to Dulux in quality but not quite.

Leyland is far inferior and cheaper.

F i F

48,037 posts

275 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Dulux trade here too.

J.R.B.

329 posts

216 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Having spent 8 years selling paint in a previous life, I personally wouldn't touch F&B paint. Not much beats Dulux trade however given the price difference, Leyland is what I tend to use. If it's a dulux colour that uses 'light' base when they mix it, just get them to stick it in a Leyland brilliant white can. Same colour for less than half the price.

s1962a

7,438 posts

186 months

Thursday 3rd February 2011
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Dulux trade here too. If you get a colour matt emulsion then water it down with a ratio of 1 to 10 and use a good microfibre roller to spread it evenly. We did this in our lounge after spending a decent amount of time filling and sanding the walls and the end result after 2 coats was pretty good.

RonJohnson

341 posts

195 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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I've just used the bog standard Dulux and wasn't impressed - have always used Dulux in the past but will think twice about using it agian - or switch to Dulux trade as people here have suggested.

shirt

25,077 posts

225 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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just a note: give the dulux decorating centres a miss. I was just looking at their prices as I need a load of gloss/undercoat/primer and they are even more expensive than b&q.

Dr_Rick

1,714 posts

272 months

Friday 4th February 2011
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We've had our house done by a guy who used paint from a Johntone/Leyland paint centre. He swore by it. All I can say is that we swore at it later. Yes, it's cheaper, yes they can mix your F&B colours at a better price point, but that's it. When we tried to use it for a very simple cream (not magnolia) it took 3 or 4 coats to give a decent finish and that was on a previously white wall. We were very disappointed.

More recently, We used a rich blue from F&B. Two coats on a cream wall and we were done. Per tin it's more expensive I'd agree. But, we used less of it to get an acceptable finish.

We won't be using Johnstone/Leyland again.

Dr Rick