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Toyo R888 for me. Swapped when the originals were still available but at a rather high price. Probably a little better than the original Corsas in the wet, but not much. Then again, I try not to drive that much in the wet.
Will be interested to see how Simon gets on with the Federal RSRs if he tries them.
Will be interested to see how Simon gets on with the Federal RSRs if he tries them.
t to a blanket in the dry 
Hey guys the EU law has changed and 888s and the like are no longer legal on the road so would check they are legal for the EU as those feds FZ201 def wont be.
I have been looking at the yokos AD48 Neova, they look very good and are new, ok price, so far the best i have seen for track/road
I have been looking at the yokos AD48 Neova, they look very good and are new, ok price, so far the best i have seen for track/road
daddysumo said:
Hi Craig.. are you sure it has actually been passed yet as I had heard that they were trying to push it through in the UK but have not heard or read that it has actually been rubber stamped.... pardon the pun 
Hi Steve,I was told by a large supplier that it becomes law in May 2011.
I think this has been what has caused the shortage of tyres towards the end of last year. Problem with finding tyres has been a major headache, hopefully there will be more choice this summer, but we will be hard pushed to find anything really good for track.
So maybe its time to have two sets one for road and one for track. Complete pain in the butt as cant get them in the car
sundance002 said:
Hi Steve,
I was told by a large supplier that it becomes law in May 2011.
I think this has been what has caused the shortage of tyres towards the end of last year. Problem with finding tyres has been a major headache, hopefully there will be more choice this summer, but we will be hard pushed to find anything really good for track.
So maybe its time to have two sets one for road and one for track. Complete pain in the butt as cant get them in the car
Hi Craig,I was told by a large supplier that it becomes law in May 2011.
I think this has been what has caused the shortage of tyres towards the end of last year. Problem with finding tyres has been a major headache, hopefully there will be more choice this summer, but we will be hard pushed to find anything really good for track.
So maybe its time to have two sets one for road and one for track. Complete pain in the butt as cant get them in the car
Have you (or anyone else) got any other confirmation of this, or links to any official site/announcement?
I know there were proposals, but like Steve have not seen any hard facts that it's actually going to be implemented with dates.
Also searches in the Track Day forum and SP&L come up blank, and I'd have expected there to be some discussion on this if it's imminent in May....
Just I'd rather not change from 888s unless I have to, especially as current set still have some wear left in them.
I found this on another thread which throws more light on the subject, it seems that across the range the law comes into effect in 2012 but on certain ranges it comes in this year?
Brands slated as failing already on the new figures and not be available to sell (from 2011) are:
Avon ZZ3, Admiral, Chengshan, Falken, Fortuna, Federal, Goodride, Hankook, Kenda, Kumho, Linglong, Matador, Maxiss, Milestone, Nankang NS2, Nexen, Rotalla, Semperit, Sumo firenza, Sunny, Toyo, Triangle, Viking, and Wanli.
Some manufacturers are trying to ready replacement models but the "Tire Industry" say will increase prices by average of 35% across the range.
New regulations for MOT Failures have not as yet been dated
Heres the brief statement on the matter and the official link.
http://www.etrma.org/public/activitiestyreg.asp
Quote:
[b]
What Does the New S-Marking Law Mean for the Tyre Trade?
With the amount of European legislation about to be unleashed on the tyre market you can be forgiven for thinking you need a law degree to work in the tyre trade.
Since the introduction of the of end-of-life vehicle directive banning lead wheel balancing weights in mid-2006, tyre manufacturers, distributors and wholesalers alike have been bracing themselves for the introduction of the most stringent requirements on tyre rolling resistance, noise, wet grip and product labelling the market has ever seen.
Nevertheless, as important as these rules undoubtedly are, none of them take effect until 2011 for the original equipment market and 2012 for replacement market sales - and even this will be a phased introduction. T
he problem is that before these laws take effect there are at least two other major piece of legislation set to hit the markets. There is the so-called clean oil requirement, which bans the use of aromatic oils in the production of new tyres from Jan. 1, 2010, but again even this law offers the manufacturers it most directly affects another seven months of preparation time before they have to face the music. And what’s more, leading industry sources report that all European manufacturers either are or will be comfortably ready in time for the Jan. 1 deadline. The question is: were you aware that there is yet another bill on the European statute books that is scheduled for enforcement in less than six months?
Directive 2001/43/EEC, or s-marking legislation as it is more commonly known, represents the evolution of the earlier EC regulation or E-mark. In 2001 the European Parliament decided to bolt on noise requirements in addition to the existing requirements. Eight years later, with little publicity on the subject, introduction of this law is set to take effect on Oct. 1, 2009. The details of what is involved in the 22 pages of European law are far from clear, and at the time of going to press T&A was receiving more phonecalls seeking clarification on this than any other subject.
Here’s how we understand it: In the first instance the legislation forces products up to 185 section width to comply with enhanced noise emission standards, with tyres of 210 millimetres-plus width following a year later in October 2010. Sizes larger than this will follow a year later in 2011. At this stage it is worth pointing out that, according to the ETRMA, the first phase covers tyres of any business segment (passenger car, truck and buss etc). However, the 2010 and 2011 deadlines for up to and over 210 width tyres apparently only refers to passenger car products.
Incidentally, the latest round of legislation (which includes labelling rules, etc.) brings with it new regulations covering truck and bus tyre fitments.
To those selling or wholesaling the tyres the technical details of what decibel limits are being brought in are perhaps less important than the implications. And in this respect the rule has one very clear outworking – from October tyres covered by the legislation will have to have an “S” stamped at the end of its seven-digit code on the sidewall and those that don’t will be illegal.
To clarify (and I am indebted to Colin Smith of Sinton’s Tyres for elucidating the labyrinthine legislation on this point) this means your stock needs to have two seven-digit marks – one for the e-mark and one for the s-mark. (Tyres & Accessories/Staffordshire, U.K.) [/b]
I notice a few manufacturers have new tyres out, but there's a LOT of the old tyres still on shelves...
Sundance
Brands slated as failing already on the new figures and not be available to sell (from 2011) are:
Avon ZZ3, Admiral, Chengshan, Falken, Fortuna, Federal, Goodride, Hankook, Kenda, Kumho, Linglong, Matador, Maxiss, Milestone, Nankang NS2, Nexen, Rotalla, Semperit, Sumo firenza, Sunny, Toyo, Triangle, Viking, and Wanli.
Some manufacturers are trying to ready replacement models but the "Tire Industry" say will increase prices by average of 35% across the range.
New regulations for MOT Failures have not as yet been dated
Heres the brief statement on the matter and the official link.
http://www.etrma.org/public/activitiestyreg.asp
Quote:
[b]
What Does the New S-Marking Law Mean for the Tyre Trade?
With the amount of European legislation about to be unleashed on the tyre market you can be forgiven for thinking you need a law degree to work in the tyre trade.
Since the introduction of the of end-of-life vehicle directive banning lead wheel balancing weights in mid-2006, tyre manufacturers, distributors and wholesalers alike have been bracing themselves for the introduction of the most stringent requirements on tyre rolling resistance, noise, wet grip and product labelling the market has ever seen.
Nevertheless, as important as these rules undoubtedly are, none of them take effect until 2011 for the original equipment market and 2012 for replacement market sales - and even this will be a phased introduction. T
he problem is that before these laws take effect there are at least two other major piece of legislation set to hit the markets. There is the so-called clean oil requirement, which bans the use of aromatic oils in the production of new tyres from Jan. 1, 2010, but again even this law offers the manufacturers it most directly affects another seven months of preparation time before they have to face the music. And what’s more, leading industry sources report that all European manufacturers either are or will be comfortably ready in time for the Jan. 1 deadline. The question is: were you aware that there is yet another bill on the European statute books that is scheduled for enforcement in less than six months?
Directive 2001/43/EEC, or s-marking legislation as it is more commonly known, represents the evolution of the earlier EC regulation or E-mark. In 2001 the European Parliament decided to bolt on noise requirements in addition to the existing requirements. Eight years later, with little publicity on the subject, introduction of this law is set to take effect on Oct. 1, 2009. The details of what is involved in the 22 pages of European law are far from clear, and at the time of going to press T&A was receiving more phonecalls seeking clarification on this than any other subject.
Here’s how we understand it: In the first instance the legislation forces products up to 185 section width to comply with enhanced noise emission standards, with tyres of 210 millimetres-plus width following a year later in October 2010. Sizes larger than this will follow a year later in 2011. At this stage it is worth pointing out that, according to the ETRMA, the first phase covers tyres of any business segment (passenger car, truck and buss etc). However, the 2010 and 2011 deadlines for up to and over 210 width tyres apparently only refers to passenger car products.
Incidentally, the latest round of legislation (which includes labelling rules, etc.) brings with it new regulations covering truck and bus tyre fitments.
To those selling or wholesaling the tyres the technical details of what decibel limits are being brought in are perhaps less important than the implications. And in this respect the rule has one very clear outworking – from October tyres covered by the legislation will have to have an “S” stamped at the end of its seven-digit code on the sidewall and those that don’t will be illegal.
To clarify (and I am indebted to Colin Smith of Sinton’s Tyres for elucidating the labyrinthine legislation on this point) this means your stock needs to have two seven-digit marks – one for the e-mark and one for the s-mark. (Tyres & Accessories/Staffordshire, U.K.) [/b]
I notice a few manufacturers have new tyres out, but there's a LOT of the old tyres still on shelves...
Sundance
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