JURY SERVICE
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ronin350

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52 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Its not car related but does anyone know how i can get out of jury service,i have already done the old holiday excuse and i thought that would be the end off it but f**k me two weeks later they sent me another date,i really cant be doing with this at the moment.
thanks

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

280 months

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

306 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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ronin350 said:
Its not car related but does anyone know how i can get out of jury service,i have already done the old holiday excuse and i thought that would be the end off it but f**k me two weeks later they sent me another date,i really cant be doing with this at the moment.
thanks

AFAIK if you are critical to your busniess and it will suffer from your absence you can be excused.

Either that, or turn up to the jury selection with your underpants on your head, two pencils up your nostrils, and saying 'wibble'.

gone

6,649 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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ronin350 said:
Its not car related but does anyone know how i can get out of jury service,i have already done the old holiday excuse and i thought that would be the end off it but f**k me two weeks later they sent me another date,i really cant be doing with this at the moment.
thanks


On the forms they send you, There are a number of reasons they give for you to claim exemption. If you do not fit into those (and there are quite a few) then you will have to attend or face the penalty for not doing so! There is no 'getting out of it because it doesn't suit me' line.

A few months ago, I was giving evidence in a case where before I went into the 'box', the usher told me that a celebrity was on the jury. It turned out to be John Madjeski (chairman of Reading Football club and owner of Auto Trader [If you call that celebrity ])

The Usher told me that he had asked for a personal interview with the Judge about having to sit on the jury because he was too busy to do so
I am led to believe that the Judge can give dispensation from the jury.

Guess what? He was sitting there looking really Pd off indeed . The Judge obviously not agreeing with Mr Madjeski's own opinion of how important he is

ronin350

Original Poster:

52 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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What made it even worse was i phone up the courts and asked if i could pay the grand fine the tree kissing sandle wearing feminist told me i could also be sent down for it,i was thinking of turning up and telling them i will just say they are guilty anyway and see what happens then,because at basildon court 99% of the time they are!!!

stuuu

78 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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ronin350, if you do end up going to Basildon Crown Court don't return a verdict after 5pm. When we left security had gone home and the family of the party upset by the verdict gave us a welcoming committee as we left the Jury area.

JMGS4

8,878 posts

292 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Have a friend in Sheffield who has got himself "exempted" by going the first time and asking the beak at the first talking to if the jury were recommending the punishment and "are the stocks, the birch and hanging still applicable for scum?"
He was sent home within 2 minutes!!! with his days expenses and has never been called again.... seems that the jury people only want liberal minded w*nkers instead of people who want to see justice done and felt!

WildCat

8,369 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Colleague got called for jury service. He managed to get the initial one postponed as he had pre-booked his jollies, and cancellation would mean "out of pocket!"

They summoned him again, and despite pressures of work - and supporting letter from his boss (and you know I do not mince words ) - no dice! He had to do his civic duty.

He spent two weeks banged up in a jury room (and they locked the door so that he could not escape!) He served on one jury for two days - gang of scrotes accused of stealing cars for ringers. They were found guilty - but lentilist and bit of a wally apparently let them off with community service!

Colleague's verdict: Classic waste of his time and firm lost out because essential guy was absent!

But in answer to poster's question - you have to have a darned good excuse to be let off this!

ronin350

Original Poster:

52 posts

263 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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stuuu said:
ronin350, if you do end up going to Basildon Crown Court don't return a verdict after 5pm. When we left security had gone home and the family of the party upset by the verdict gave us a welcoming committee as we left the Jury area.


Which just goes to prove my point,do you know what, i can understand why so many of us are leaving this sh**hole of GREAT BRITAIN

Cooperman

4,428 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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To be a bit different here, I have never been called for jury service and that is something I rather regret.
Most of my friends have 'done their bit', but neither I, nor my wife, has ever been called.
Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but surely it is a civic duty. Most of the people who post on here seem to be able to both listen to others views and put forward their own views in a balanced and forthright manner, so surely they are exactly the right sort of person to be a good juror.
None of us here belive the police evidence to be absolutely accurate, but we all know how the scrotes and criminals behave. That must make for good, balanced opinions.
Come on chaps (and chapesses) do your bit without moaning!

xxplod

2,269 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Getting out of jury service is simple. Join your local Special Constabulary, give a few hours a week to your local BiBs, and job done. You will not, indeed cannot be called.

planetdave

9,921 posts

275 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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Do your employers have to keep paying you?

If so count me in.

mrs fish

30,018 posts

280 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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I on the other hand would love to do a stint on a jury

puggit

49,422 posts

270 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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mrs fish said:
I on the other hand would love to do a stint on a jury
Me too.

GUILTY!

Big_M

5,602 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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I did a stint on Jury Service about 7 years ago. It was very interesting and I would certainly go again if asked. It was very tiring - you have to concentrate 110%. My company paid my salary and I also found out that my household insurance paid me £25 for every day I attended court. Nice little earner.

I had two cases - a complicated fraud/theft and one of knowingly allowing people to take drugs on your premises - didn't know that one existed.

Please go and do your bit - the Jury would benefit from someone with a few brain cells believe me.

clapham993

11,998 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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The only way to get out of it once and for all is to demonstrate that you have a career that renders you 'Liable to be involved in the administration of justice'

This is quite widely defined - I was exempted on this basis because, as a then Major in the Territorial Army, I was entitled try and pass summary awards (punishments)for minor offences

xxplod

2,269 posts

266 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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PlanetDave - alas, no they don't. Ususally you volunteer in your spare time.

clapham993

11,998 posts

265 months

Thursday 29th April 2004
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xxplod said:
PlanetDave - alas, no they don't. Ususally you volunteer in your spare time.


It would however be a very parsimonious employer who did not do so. I continue to pay my staff when on jury service, only deducting the daily allowance received so as not to impact on their tax position.

The people I feel sorry for are contract staff

mel

10,168 posts

297 months

Friday 30th April 2004
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One of my blokes turned up and on day one found out he was going on a murder trial (this could have lasted lots of weeks) since the accused was a local woman, he casually mentioned to the usher that he had met her a few times in the woods while walking his dog, within ten minutes he was discharged from the jury and sent home, he was back at work the next day.

However on the other side of the coin another guy I know turned up did his civic duty for 2 weeks met a lovely young lady (also on the jury not the accused ) and they get married next year, you never know how these things will pan out.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

277 months

Friday 30th April 2004
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clapham993 said:

It would however be a very parsimonious employer who did not do so. I continue to pay my staff when on jury service, only deducting the daily allowance received so as not to impact on their tax position.

The people I feel sorry for are contract staff



xxplod was talking about joining the Special Constabulary, not Jury Service.

I was called up twice within a year when I was in my early 20's. Both times I was contacted shortly before the day I had to attend to tell me my services where no longer required. Shame as I was quite keen to do it.

>> Edited by Mr2Mike on Friday 30th April 14:00