Wireless fire alarms
Discussion
Any alarm experts of this parish able to give me the benefit of their experience?
I have to install 13....yes 13, seperate fire alarm systems in a clients buildings.
Its a mansion block with 13 'blocks' each with 6 flats off a shared staircase. I want wireless battery operated smoke/heat detectors in each flat hallway, in the staircase at each landing level and one in the shared roof space and one in the shared basement. I want them to link to a panel at ground floor level which should be addressable and in the event of a detector going off, all flats on that system should evactuate.. I also want radio controlled call points at the final exit door to the street and the rear gardens.
Any advice on manufacturers of systems that would be suitable? It's got to look a bit stylish too as these are very nice properties.
I don't just want to spec 'install system to bs 5839 part 6' etc etc as the client wants a greater input in advance.
I have to install 13....yes 13, seperate fire alarm systems in a clients buildings.
Its a mansion block with 13 'blocks' each with 6 flats off a shared staircase. I want wireless battery operated smoke/heat detectors in each flat hallway, in the staircase at each landing level and one in the shared roof space and one in the shared basement. I want them to link to a panel at ground floor level which should be addressable and in the event of a detector going off, all flats on that system should evactuate.. I also want radio controlled call points at the final exit door to the street and the rear gardens.
Any advice on manufacturers of systems that would be suitable? It's got to look a bit stylish too as these are very nice properties.
I don't just want to spec 'install system to bs 5839 part 6' etc etc as the client wants a greater input in advance.
That's quite a big install. Depending on the budget and your contractual tie in for maintenance requirements, I would personally steer away from a wireless system due to exhuberant maintenance costs and wireless surveys, which you could be spending on a relatively more cost effecive (in the long term) hard-wired addressable system. If you have vacant access to the properties before they get occupied then I would not even consider a wireless system.
If you do decide to go wired, then drop Richard Evans a line at Haes Systems he will put you onto the right system.
If you do decide to go wired, then drop Richard Evans a line at Haes Systems he will put you onto the right system.
I think you'll need the detectors to be hardwired to an electrical supply with a battery back-up to meet the current regs (assuming the blocks are in England or Wales).
I share an office with a Fire Alarm guy. He's not in today but I may see him tonight at Networking. Where is the project - where are you?
I share an office with a Fire Alarm guy. He's not in today but I may see him tonight at Networking. Where is the project - where are you?
Edited by mk1fan on Wednesday 9th February 11:44
I know that they are a solution of last resort in most situations and would always go for hard wired addressable.
Problem is, this is a retro-fit into existing flats, each of which is owned on a long leasehold basis and many of which have had very expensive refurbishments.
I am looking for a real top end quality system. I have flagged up the increased maintenance costs but as they will be service charge recoverable and insignificant in comparison to the inconvenience of installed concealled wiring it's the direction we need to go, at least in the first instance.
Installing a wireless system is actually easy as anything, provided you know it's going to work. They key is in selecting the right system in the first place. I'm also expecting to be able to get a very keen price on the basis of 150 detectors, 13 panels and 26 call points!
Problem is, this is a retro-fit into existing flats, each of which is owned on a long leasehold basis and many of which have had very expensive refurbishments.
I am looking for a real top end quality system. I have flagged up the increased maintenance costs but as they will be service charge recoverable and insignificant in comparison to the inconvenience of installed concealled wiring it's the direction we need to go, at least in the first instance.
Installing a wireless system is actually easy as anything, provided you know it's going to work. They key is in selecting the right system in the first place. I'm also expecting to be able to get a very keen price on the basis of 150 detectors, 13 panels and 26 call points!
mk1fan said:
I think you'll need the detectors to be hardwired to an electrical supply with a battery back-up to meet the current regs (assuming the blocks are in England or Wales).
That's one of the things that I need to check. I thought that was probably the case but I have read somewhere of battery only systems with the relevant maintenance and fail safe systems built in.We have only ever done hard wired systems, if you go down the hard wired route I would have a look at the Gent Nano addressable system.
I have never used them, but have come across a range of wire free radio fire alarm equipment from a company called EMS.
Check out their website for more info.
I have never used them, but have come across a range of wire free radio fire alarm equipment from a company called EMS.
Check out their website for more info.
Edited by PH5121 on Wednesday 9th February 12:15
PH5121 said:
We have only ever done hard wired systems, if you go down the hard wired route I would have a look at the Gent Nano addressable system.
I have never used them, but have come across a range of wire free radio fire alarm equipment from a company called EMS.
Check out their website for more info.
That seems like the sort of company I'm looking for. Thanks. I have never used them, but have come across a range of wire free radio fire alarm equipment from a company called EMS.
Check out their website for more info.
Edited by PH5121 on Wednesday 9th February 12:15
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