support the campaign for a fairer fuel taxation
support the campaign for a fairer fuel taxation
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SILICONE KID

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

248 months

Big E 118

2,448 posts

186 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Done, all these "stop buying petrol from *** retailer" are not worth it.

IMO lobbying the government for tax reductions (fuel duty stabiliser/scrapping of the April increase) is the more realistic avenues to pursue.

V88Dicky

7,352 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Done. Not that it will change a damn thing, though frown

danger mouse

3,828 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Well at least it's aimed at the right element of the fuel price this time.

Done, let's see what happens.

SILICONE KID

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

248 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Every time the fuel price goes up before Tax and vat it then triples .Why not cap the tax on fuel at a fixed price and any increase would just be at net.If it had been capped at £1 a litre we would only be paying £1.10 now..The govemrent were happy with the revenue when it was priced at a £1 a litre so why not now.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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SILICONE KID said:
Every time the fuel price goes up before Tax and vat it then triples .Why not cap the tax on fuel at a fixed price and any increase would just be at net.If it had been capped at £1 a litre we would only be paying £1.10 now..The govemrent was happy with the revenue when it was priced at a £1 a litre so why not now.
It's like the government has suddenly found that we're massively in debt or something and we need to raise taxation to pay it off or something

danger mouse

3,828 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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CampDavid said:
It's like the government has suddenly found that we're massively in debt or something and we need to raise taxation to pay it off or something
Do you really think they suddenly discovered that!?

The escalator was just easier to get through with the MMGW b******s attached, but they would have found some other way to make us thank them for it if they didn't have that.

SILICONE KID

Original Poster:

14,997 posts

248 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Yes those bankers have the tax payers money and making a fortune again .Nothing as changed for 500 years ,we are just peasants keeping the top 5% in luxury they are laughing at us.Now its time to revolt !

Nuttah

566 posts

189 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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SILICONE KID said:
Yes those bankers have the tax payers money and making a fortune again .Nothing as changed for 500 years ,we are just peasants keeping the top 5% in luxury they are laughing at us.Now its time to revolt !
This^^

danger mouse

3,828 posts

278 months

Wednesday 9th February 2011
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Quick light the beacons before the net and phones are powered down!

SarGara

394 posts

193 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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I spotted this featured on Daybreak this morning while getting ready for work. Needless to say im now signed up but i wasnt aware of it until today which is a shame.

Hopefully it continues to spread via the media!

hombrepaulo

1,309 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Yeah lets stuff repaying the massive national debt in favour of saving a few pence per litre.

Jasandjules

71,283 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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Signed.

And will send it on to friends too!

danger mouse

3,828 posts

278 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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hombrepaulo said:
Yeah lets stuff repaying the massive national debt in favour of saving a few pence per litre.
That clearly needs to be addressed too, but bankrupting the entire population and artificially slowing down every area of the economy does not seem the most logical way to achieve it, unless you can explain it to us in a way we can understand. (?)

Shamu

147 posts

197 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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hombrepaulo said:
Yeah lets stuff repaying the massive national debt in favour of saving a few pence per litre.
OK smile

hombrepaulo

1,309 posts

188 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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danger mouse said:
That clearly needs to be addressed too, but bankrupting the entire population and artificially slowing down every area of the economy does not seem the most logical way to achieve it, unless you can explain it to us in a way we can understand. (?)
The point is that the few pounds a week you may save on fuel as an individual adds up to a massive amount on a national level which can go towards reducing (clearing) our national debt. This inturn will reduce (remove) the ludicrous interest we pay every year on this debt.
The relatively small impact it is having in the short term is far far outweighed by the long term gain we will all benefit from. But as is common people only tend to focus on the here and now. What they can have today. And it is this now now now attitude that has stuffed up this, with people (and country) up to their eyeballs in debt. Hell our GDP has been negative for decades due to this attitude and its time we sucked it up. Short term gain will always be of detriment to long term prosperity.

chrisga

2,128 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2011
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hombrepaulo said:
Yeah lets stuff repaying the massive national debt in favour of saving a few pence per litre.
Sounds good to me.

danger mouse

3,828 posts

278 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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hombrepaulo said:
The point is that the few pounds a week you may save on fuel as an individual adds up to a massive amount on a national level which can go towards reducing (clearing) our national debt. This inturn will reduce (remove) the ludicrous interest we pay every year on this debt.
The relatively small impact it is having in the short term is far far outweighed by the long term gain we will all benefit from. But as is common people only tend to focus on the here and now. What they can have today. And it is this now now now attitude that has stuffed up this, with people (and country) up to their eyeballs in debt. Hell our GDP has been negative for decades due to this attitude and its time we sucked it up. Short term gain will always be of detriment to long term prosperity.
Hey, I understand all of this but you need to think onto the next step of your own argument in conjunction with the wider spread effects of higher fuel prices. This is NOT about a small short term personal material gain but a short sighted government policy that is justified by lies upon lies.

I can't be bothered to go further into it, as it's been discussed ad infinitum in many places here on PH but the wash-down of artificially highly fuel prices pulls the hand brake on the economy and will slow down recovery and deficit repayment.

We are not all posh gits in Astoghini's round here and would rather not be hindered in doing our bit by not being able to justify going the shops to buy goods or food we can't afford or simply be priced out of commuting to work the jobs we got before the price hikes.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

204 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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done smile

Killer2005

20,270 posts

245 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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SILICONE KID said:
Yes those bankers have the tax payers money and making a fortune again .Nothing as changed for 500 years ,we are just peasants keeping the top 5% in luxury they are laughing at us.Now its time to revolt !
Yes lets blame the bankers rofl