you know you are badly wrong ...
you know you are badly wrong ...
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aclivity

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4,072 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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When the NF think you are right.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/10/marine-l...

Tragic.

Phil1

621 posts

312 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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If the NF thought that murder was wrong, would you disagree then?

Derek Smith

49,936 posts

278 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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It was a politician's speech in that you could put your own meaning to what he said. There were very few specifics, he did not commit the government to actually do something, but it did have its full share of soundbites. So the working class racist could say how great he is, the middle class liberal could suggest that, in picking on extremists he was, in fact, quite correct don't you know, and politicians of all parties could rest easily knowing that they did not actually have to do anything difficult.

What could be better? Everyone happy.

Mind you, timing could have been a whole lot better.

I used to write 'apology' letters where members of the public had made a complaint about performance that did not, if I played it right, amount to an 'official' one.

I generally started the letter or phone call by saying: I am really sorry that our performance did not reach the standard that you expected, and for this I can only apologise.

Me and David - built of the same stuff when it comes to saying something that means absolutely zilch but looks good.

rs1952

5,247 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Derek Smith said:
I used to write 'apology' letters where members of the public had made a complaint about performance that did not, if I played it right, amount to an 'official' one.

I generally started the letter or phone call by saying: I am really sorry that our performance did not reach the standard that you expected, and for this I can only apologise.

Me and David - built of the same stuff when it comes to saying something that means absolutely zilch but looks good.
As a former Complaints Officer for a Housing Association I know exactly where you're coming from

And there are so many pleasant ways of saying: "Dear Sir fk off Yours faithfully" wink

JagLover

46,814 posts

265 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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aclivity said:
When the NF think you are right.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/10/marine-l...

Tragic.
rolleyes

aclivity

Original Poster:

4,072 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Phil1 said:
If the NF thought that murder was wrong, would you disagree then?
oops, the perils of making a post on your phone then forgetting about it until lunchtime.

What I meant ... but didn't say, obviously, otherwise these responses may have been different ... was that I would expect that CMD wouldn't be looking at this and thinking "whoah, yeah, I'm getting support from all across Europe". I suspect he would NOT welcome this kind of affirmation or support, considering perhaps that the NF had (like the EDL at the weekend) chosen to hear what they wanted rather than what he actually said.

Personally, whether the NF agreed with my view of murder or not, I would rather them not try to align with me?

Apologies for any confusion caused.

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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There are many in France who believe that the Front National could make it to the second round at the next election and even gain power. The Front National in France are, whether we like it or not, a legitimate political party who are gaining popularity amongst the normal working Frenchman as the country becomes increasingly fed up with the usual political groups.


Phil1

621 posts

312 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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aclivity said:
oops, the perils of making a post on your phone then forgetting about it until lunchtime.

What I meant ... but didn't say, obviously, otherwise these responses may have been different ... was that I would expect that CMD wouldn't be looking at this and thinking "whoah, yeah, I'm getting support from all across Europe". I suspect he would NOT welcome this kind of affirmation or support, considering perhaps that the NF had (like the EDL at the weekend) chosen to hear what they wanted rather than what he actually said.

Personally, whether the NF agreed with my view of murder or not, I would rather them not try to align with me?

Apologies for any confusion caused.
..but if in my random example, and the NF did try and align with you on the subject of murder, would you then think you'd got it badly wrong!? If not why would you think DC had got it badly wrong.

aclivity

Original Poster:

4,072 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Phil1 said:
..but if in my random example, and the NF did try and align with you on the subject of murder, would you then think you'd got it badly wrong!? If not why would you think DC had got it badly wrong.
My op was badly worded. Which is what I think CMD has done, the intent and underlying message of his statement is good on balance, but taking the soundbites out can be used to support more extreme views.