What did TVR do to the RV8?
What did TVR do to the RV8?
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theironduke

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6,995 posts

219 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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As title, what did TVR do to the Rover V8 used in the Chim to screw out the horses? I know the exhaust manifolds are pretty unique but wondered what else they did? I assume the heads are basically the same still? i.e. single cam/pushrods?

Thanks chaps.

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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Much depends which motors you are talking about...

Bigger capacities, higher compression, balanced, ported heads, bigger valves, own dual valve springs, ported inlet manifolds, trumpets, wilder cams, efi maps, dizzy curve weights/springs, lightened flywheels, uprated clutches, own rods (mainly 4.2 based pistons)...

Not even a complete list, but should give you some idea, and the variations across engine size + spec and date of manufacture throws up as many minor differences again which are quite tricky to fathom at times.

eg you have a simple nomenclatures 4.0, 4.0hc, 4.3, 4.3BV, 4.5BV, 450, 500, 500hc, & all can have minor revisions / omissions, as befits an engine that could be specced at time of purchase I guess.

theironduke

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6,995 posts

219 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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spend said:
Much depends which motors you are talking about...

Bigger capacities, higher compression, balanced, ported heads, bigger valves, own dual valve springs, ported inlet manifolds, trumpets, wilder cams, efi maps, dizzy curve weights/springs, lightened flywheels, uprated clutches, own rods (mainly 4.2 based pistons)...

Not even a complete list, but should give you some idea, and the variations across engine size + spec and date of manufacture throws up as many minor differences again which are quite tricky to fathom at times.

eg you have a simple nomenclatures 4.0, 4.0hc, 4.3, 4.3BV, 4.5BV, 450, 500, 500hc, & all can have minor revisions / omissions, as befits an engine that could be specced at time of purchase I guess.
Thanks for that, i guessed it was that kind of thing. I just wasn'tr 100% whether TVR did anything major like their own heads from scratch etc.

Thanks!

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Mostly they added a large dose of optimism.

I don't think any of the cars left the factory with TVR's claimed power outputs. Some of them are probably closer to Range Rover or SD1 power outputs than Blackpool would have liked to admit. smile

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Chris71 said:
Mostly they added a large dose of optimism.

I don't think any of the cars left the factory with TVR's claimed power outputs. Some of them are probably closer to Range Rover or SD1 power outputs than Blackpool would have liked to admit. smile
If you just bought a 500 and think like that, I can only deduce you must have bought a real pup?

Chris71

21,549 posts

273 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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spend said:
If you just bought a 500 and think like that, I can only deduce you must have bought a real pup?
It was only meant as a light hearted comment. confused

I was under the impression from countless PH threads that you'd be very lucky to find a standard 500 making 340bhp? I have no idea what my 'pup' is putting out, but it feels healthy enough to me.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Chris71 said:
I was under the impression from countless PH threads that you'd be very lucky to find a standard 500 making 340bhp? I have no idea what my 'pup' is putting out, but it feels healthy enough to me.
You won't find a std 500 getting anywhere close to 340!

Take a look at the Growl and Roar Dyno results, a standard 500 is doing well to hit 280 - most are lower than that.

theironduke

Original Poster:

6,995 posts

219 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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sgrimshaw said:
You won't find a std 500 getting anywhere close to 340!

Take a look at the Growl and Roar Dyno results, a standard 500 is doing well to hit 280 - most are lower than that.
Blimey....

So what is an average 400 going to be making? 200?

900T-R

20,406 posts

288 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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theironduke said:
Blimey....

So what is an average 400 going to be making? 200?
210ish, good ones can get in the 220-225 range. The thing with TVR RV8s is the larger the capacity, the more outlandish the bhp claims compared to reality... On the two rolling roads I know best here, an average 500 is at 255-260 according to the operators. On the TVRCC Holland's rolling road day, the unmodified 500s struggled to top 250, while four litres were all comfortably above 200, a 3.6 S6 sat at 335 and a box stock V6 S kicked out 168 - good going after 20 years that biggrin

SILICONE KID

14,997 posts

262 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Mine is 1bhp short of 340BHP !Dam itfurious

Chimpafrolic

9,637 posts

210 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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SILICONE KID said:
Mine is 1bhp short of 340BHP !Dam itfurious
I am sure you can find that missing horse Daz.

Just have a fiddle with your MegaSmirk system.

What possible harm can you do? confused

mgjc

129 posts

207 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I have a standard 400 1998 Chim (apart from ACT induction) and my last rolling road gave me 228bhp

finestjammy

741 posts

204 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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900T-R said:
theironduke said:
Blimey....

So what is an average 400 going to be making? 200?
210ish, good ones can get in the 220-225 range. The thing with TVR RV8s is the larger the capacity, the more outlandish the bhp claims compared to reality... On the two rolling roads I know best here, an average 500 is at 255-260 according to the operators. On the TVRCC Holland's rolling road day, the unmodified 500s struggled to top 250, while four litres were all comfortably above 200, a 3.6 S6 sat at 335 and a box stock V6 S kicked out 168 - good going after 20 years that biggrin
230 from my 400 smile Standard apart from a sleeved silencer as far as I know.

sgrimshaw

7,587 posts

281 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Thinking of getting this for mine biggrin


900T-R

20,406 posts

288 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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finestjammy said:
230 from my 400 smile Standard apart from a sleeved silencer as far as I know.
Indeed, I was being conservative. smile IIRC the at-the-wheels figure Autovisie magazine got back when they had a 4.0 long-termer indicated about 225 at the fly, I know of an absolutely standard, old boy example that made 229 bhp at Austec's rollers, and then there's of course Garlick's car... biggrin


V8NRG

854 posts

274 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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My old 400 made 225bhp (fly wheel) completly std on SRR.

I'm yet to test the 500 but expect between 260-275bhp (fly wheel) again compleyly std.

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Why do some quote flywheel figures and some at wheels.
Surely only at wheels is measurable ?

Genuine question by the way before someone puts me right !

dog man

552 posts

233 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Flywheel bhp is what the engine makes. At the wheels is what the CAR makes

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Doesn't the rolling road measure at the wheels only.
To measure at the engine you would have to have the engine on a bench dyno ?

potato muncher

613 posts

246 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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I dont care what the BHP is on my 4.0 HC, I put my foot down and the smiles are very large.