Is a LHD 996 RS worth it ?
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OK all some of you may or maynot know I was one of many let down by OPC's taking orders on non existant 996RS's .Having been patiant and looked at a couple of 993 GT2,s (very nice cars) part of me still lusts after the teckno plastic uber RS there are now a number for sale in Germany at UK list price are they worth it?? http://tinyurl.com/3xyo9
I am told as they are a werk 1(motorsport) built car there is no issue over c16 non c16 does anyone know more?
all coments welcome
I am told as they are a werk 1(motorsport) built car there is no issue over c16 non c16 does anyone know more?
all coments welcome
Is a lhd 996 RS worth it? the financial aspect is clearly a consideration here...As far as i undestand there are 100 rhd 996RS (a lot for a limited edition porsche). These should hold their money better than the lhd equivalent which i beleive there are many more made.
To drive, apart from the location of the stering wheel I am not aware of any advantage of lhd over rhd...for 964& 993RS vague excuses about steering racks and offset pedals can apply.
So it comes down to numbers, I personally would buy a rhd for the rarity value at the current price differential. the number produced clinches it for me.
With 964/993 RS the rhd/lhd spread can be as little as £10k and maybe as wide as £20k. to me the spread is too tight currently to justify buying lhd over right.
If you plan to use the car extensively on the continent or the ring then go for it and disregard any of the above rambling
To drive, apart from the location of the stering wheel I am not aware of any advantage of lhd over rhd...for 964& 993RS vague excuses about steering racks and offset pedals can apply.
So it comes down to numbers, I personally would buy a rhd for the rarity value at the current price differential. the number produced clinches it for me.
With 964/993 RS the rhd/lhd spread can be as little as £10k and maybe as wide as £20k. to me the spread is too tight currently to justify buying lhd over right.
If you plan to use the car extensively on the continent or the ring then go for it and disregard any of the above rambling
Bargain at the moment with LHD 964RSs as much as 32k is a LHD 993RS at 45k... Hermann & Schmitz has one I think. Tom is sometimes on this forum.
I think the 996RS isn't quite the car everyone hoped (got a bit of a slagging in the GT3 register report as well this month) and I am not sure it will be as fondly remembered as the 993RS in a decade. Buy the 993RS now then swap it for a 996RS later, when the prices equalise
I think the 996RS isn't quite the car everyone hoped (got a bit of a slagging in the GT3 register report as well this month) and I am not sure it will be as fondly remembered as the 993RS in a decade. Buy the 993RS now then swap it for a 996RS later, when the prices equalise
Slightly biased on this one....but worth every penny!.....as the new"fastest gun in town" the RS is going to have people having a pop at it.....like every new model that comes there will always be the cry from people that have learned to love the old model"the old one is better"....i have done it myself....E30 M3 for example...a fine car plenty of soul...love to drive it...but a E46 will eat it alive...but still those in the "know" say the old one is better......the same rings true with the RS...maybe it hasn't found its way it to everyone's heart yet.....but it will....and the cry will go up when its replaced...that the "old one was better"
I had the same grief from an OPC taking a spoof order from me.....finally won through in the end....but a lot of cars have ended up with people that are only interested in moving them on at a profit.....lets wait until they are all in the hands of people that actually want to drive them....after a few months with the car I bet anyone would love it.
I had the same grief from an OPC taking a spoof order from me.....finally won through in the end....but a lot of cars have ended up with people that are only interested in moving them on at a profit.....lets wait until they are all in the hands of people that actually want to drive them....after a few months with the car I bet anyone would love it.
Clubsport - spot on with the spreads - they are a lot tighter on 964RSs and I think this is down to traders and private sellers talking up values of lhd cars...but how many actually sell at these inflated prices? I've seen a couple of rhd UK cars at £35k recently - in fact there's a Rubystone (great colour) car for sale at £37.5k in this month's PP
OK I think I am OK with the LHD thing but is current UK list(£83K) good value for a German import LHD 996 GT3RS there are 510 worldwide and only 70 RHD Are people who got a RHD car getting bored with them yet? Clearly there are plenty of new ones for sale in germany why is that and is there anything there to get a price reduction bearing in mind there are 13 for sale over there at the moment? Any German dealers around?
>> Edited by lightweight on Friday 30th April 16:08
>> Edited by lightweight on Friday 30th April 16:08
I am not sure about the 70 rhd GT3 RS
www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=50524
You may have to be a member of the Porsche club GB to see the above link.
If you cannot see it, it is a post by the Porsche club, GT3 register secretary announcing an extra rhd 996 GT3 RS coming to the Uk bringing the total number to 100.
That was where I blagged the stat from in my earlier post.
I think there will be more for sale at reasonable prices in the next few months....i really don't think people buying the cars now will get any more premium.
When the new 997 appears the speculative money will be chasing early examples of those to offer.
www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=50524
You may have to be a member of the Porsche club GB to see the above link.
If you cannot see it, it is a post by the Porsche club, GT3 register secretary announcing an extra rhd 996 GT3 RS coming to the Uk bringing the total number to 100.
That was where I blagged the stat from in my earlier post.
I think there will be more for sale at reasonable prices in the next few months....i really don't think people buying the cars now will get any more premium.
When the new 997 appears the speculative money will be chasing early examples of those to offer.
you are right access denied;-)
I take your point re speculators and people chacing the latest toy(he looks nurvosly to the carpark)I guess that confirms my view I should wait but with le mans so close it is still tempting.
BTW do you know if the 510 figure has gone up or has the allocation changed?
I take your point re speculators and people chacing the latest toy(he looks nurvosly to the carpark)I guess that confirms my view I should wait but with le mans so close it is still tempting.
BTW do you know if the 510 figure has gone up or has the allocation changed?
Sorry to hijack the thread, however, what do people believe is a good price for a VERY TIDY low mileage (i.e. sub 30k miles) 964RS with full cage (in red). H&S seem to have lots of cars around the GBP30k- GBP40k mark at the moment, but this wouldn't hold up given the comments posted up on this thread earlier? Is £30k for a LHD car OTT or about right. Obviously without mentioning exact specs, it's hard to comment precisely....
Thanks.
Thanks.
Fergus, a low mileage car like that is going to be worth a premium - with a full cage though the suggestion might be that the majority of those 30,000 miles may have been on track - which would equate to 300,000 miles of wear and tear if that were true!!!!
To pay the premium I'd want to know just how much track work the car had done, but I'd rather pay £30k for that car than £30k for a 55,000 mile lhd car in the UK.
...but how about the £37,500 Rubystone RHD car in Porsche Post - gotta be £35ks worth and a better buy to my mind (only 47 RHD cars ever made, after all).
On the 996 GT3 RS subject - the premium for these cars will disappear very soon - don't buy one expecting to sell it on at a profit, but equally I doubt you'd lose a bundle if you kept it for a year.
To pay the premium I'd want to know just how much track work the car had done, but I'd rather pay £30k for that car than £30k for a 55,000 mile lhd car in the UK.
...but how about the £37,500 Rubystone RHD car in Porsche Post - gotta be £35ks worth and a better buy to my mind (only 47 RHD cars ever made, after all).
On the 996 GT3 RS subject - the premium for these cars will disappear very soon - don't buy one expecting to sell it on at a profit, but equally I doubt you'd lose a bundle if you kept it for a year.
On the 996 GT3 RS subject - the premium for these cars will disappear very soon - don't buy one expecting to sell it on at a profit, but equally I doubt you'd lose a bundle if you kept it for a year.
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I never make a profit on my cars they always hemorage cash but I dont want to pay what current brokers/traders are asking in terms of overlist premium ie north of £90k for a £83k car hense my interest in the LHD option
although rubystone 'red' is a seminal colour for the 964RS, I'm really not sure if I could drive around in one, as non aficionados may assume I have had the car resprayed according to personal preference....
Remember seeing some reviews in performance car and the like in 91 and seeing the 'pink' car and wondering where barbie was. Ken had a maritime blue car...
The car has not had a hard life (or doesn't show any signs of it), even though it has a cage. Things like the decals on the calipers have not discoloured, suggesting the calipers haven't gone through massive heat cycles, etc, etc.
(2nd thread-hijacking apology!)
>> Edited by fergus on Friday 30th April 17:53
Remember seeing some reviews in performance car and the like in 91 and seeing the 'pink' car and wondering where barbie was. Ken had a maritime blue car...
The car has not had a hard life (or doesn't show any signs of it), even though it has a cage. Things like the decals on the calipers have not discoloured, suggesting the calipers haven't gone through massive heat cycles, etc, etc.
(2nd thread-hijacking apology!)
>> Edited by fergus on Friday 30th April 17:53
I drove one of the 2 964RS press cars in 1991 (J99 SMO ISTR) Both were Rubystone - clearly THE only colour to have
Lightweight - I agree with you - some traders are also trying it on with lhd premiums in the UK too. My advice was based on buying either lhd or rhd.
I've never lost money on a 911 FWIW, but then I've never bought new!
Lightweight - I agree with you - some traders are also trying it on with lhd premiums in the UK too. My advice was based on buying either lhd or rhd.
I've never lost money on a 911 FWIW, but then I've never bought new!
fergus + rubystone + 964RS = hijacked thread....
OK, the answer to the original question about LHD 996 GT3RS is .....this is a trackcar, on a track there is no benefit in RHD, and on the road going quick you soon adjust to overtaking...no problemo.
If you are a real petrolhead, then YES , its worth it, stuff the money , you can't wait to get your hands on one , get the LHD and drive it like its meant to be driven.
If however you are a speculator, want to buy, try, sell on soon , either at a premium or break-even , then NO, the law of supply and demand strongly favours RHD....but the smart guys have already got in and covered the options
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If you have 80k to spend on track oriented lightweight Porsche(s) and you want to minimise depreciation and maximise potential gain then thats an interesting question
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OK, the answer to the original question about LHD 996 GT3RS is .....this is a trackcar, on a track there is no benefit in RHD, and on the road going quick you soon adjust to overtaking...no problemo.
If you are a real petrolhead, then YES , its worth it, stuff the money , you can't wait to get your hands on one , get the LHD and drive it like its meant to be driven
. If however you are a speculator, want to buy, try, sell on soon , either at a premium or break-even , then NO, the law of supply and demand strongly favours RHD....but the smart guys have already got in and covered the options
. If you have 80k to spend on track oriented lightweight Porsche(s) and you want to minimise depreciation and maximise potential gain then thats an interesting question
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