iva and mot
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p1doc

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

210 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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my murtaya is half way through it's first year post iva,just tried to order road tax for further 12/12 but website says i do not have a valid mot cert-i thought you would not need 1 till end of first year??
martin

stevetvrs

78 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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I passed my IVA July last year and was told by the DVLA that an MOT is required 3 years after IVA (age related, non Q).

Edited to say, just found this...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=3&a...

...so, not so black and white rolleyes

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Edited by stevetvrs on Thursday 10th February 23:15

ColinM50

2,691 posts

201 months

Thursday 10th February 2011
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My car was one of the last through SVA in May 2009 and registered and taxed it then. When it came to new tax time last June I took the renewal paperwork to my local Post Office and they gave me my second year's tax. Girlie said I only need an MoT after 3 years.

p1doc

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

210 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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my iva went through as 10 plate but after dvla inspection they gave me 99 plate due to engine age,now dvla tell me i should have had mot from when it got iva 6 months ago despite fact THEY issued road tax direct so basically their fault back then now say my problem now by needing an mot by end of feb in order to get road tax!
martin

khm

340 posts

227 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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if it was me i wouldn't fight the system - they will always be right ( even if they're wrong LOL ) just go get an MOT, £45 job done

p1doc

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

210 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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khm said:
if it was me i wouldn't fight the system - they will always be right ( even if they're wrong LOL ) just go get an MOT, £45 job done
mot booked mapping to be done the day before....still a pita though
martin

ColinM50

2,691 posts

201 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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What does your V5 say? My car's registered '88 so F reg and the section 3, Special Notes on my V5 says; 1) Rebuilt - assembled from parts some or all of which were not new; 2) SVA Cert issued 26.06 2009 Emission limit - %CO4.5; HC 0.12.

As I said earlier girlie in the Post Office was adamant that I didn't need an MoT.

Have you tried just going to your local Post Office and tryiong to renew your tax?

Paul Drawmer

5,134 posts

293 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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p1doc said:
my murtaya is half way through it's first year post iva,just tried to order road tax for further 12/12 but website says i do not have a valid mot cert-i thought you would not need 1 till end of first year??
martin
Does your V5 say on it "Declared new at first registration" ? On the front, special notice.

p1doc

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

210 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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do not have v5 on me at moment but surely if given v reg this means not new car
tempted by going to post office but if they issue it and i get stopped by police where do i stand.....i presume dvla have already put on system that i need an mot!
thanks for replies
martin

Frankthered

1,681 posts

206 months

Friday 11th February 2011
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Ah yes, this old chestnut. I believe that the rule that's written down is that if you have an IVA pass, you don't need an MOT for three years. This was certainly true of SVA, so I would assume (dangerous, I know) that it's the same with IVA.

Of course, as you have discovered, it's very much open to interpretation by individual post offices and DVLA offices.

AND, with a car that has been built from used parts, it isn't particularly sensible because, as Steve pointed out, the IVA doesn't assess road worthiness.

I guess, personally, I'd probably want an MOT, probably from day one, just for my own peace of mind - we can all miss things, after all.

If I'd used all new parts, I might feel a little differently though!

p1doc

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3,709 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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as iva on 99 car i knew i need an mot in 1 year but not after 6months-knew dvla would not have a f*cking clue if tried to tax 1/2 way through year so usual kit car problems of doors not opening etc could become fail at mot-how many attempts at opening door before you class as a fail...the new modification for this is not ready yet from msc
i also have schroth 4 point harnesses but in date so should be fine
more annoying more than anything else as getting car mapped next week-delayed due to bad weather
good old kit car ownership
martin

khm

340 posts

227 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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keep battling mate, don't let them get you down !!

stevetvrs

78 posts

230 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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My advise is complete Form V112 (see link) which is an application for exemption from MOT and take your V5 to the Post Office. That's what I'll be doing if they request an MOT on my tax reminders.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...

Steve

Steve_D

13,801 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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stevetvrs said:
My advise is complete Form V112 (see link) which is an application for exemption from MOT and take your V5 to the Post Office. That's what I'll be doing if they request an MOT on my tax reminders.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_...

Steve
I like that form.
It asks for when the vehicle was made...so you can say 'I made it xxxxxxx'.

The V5 will say 'Date first registered' Which may be many years back if it is an age related plate. I don't know what a Q plate V5 says in date of first registration. The V5 has no box for manufacture date.

Steve

p1doc

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3,709 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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date of first registration 13/09/10
kit built/converted-assembled from parts all of which may not be new iva cert issued 06/07/10
so may try form steve suggested tomorrow for 6/12 road tax
martin

p1doc

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3,709 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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i take it m on form would include kit cars
martin

stevetvrs

78 posts

230 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Martin,

Complete part 3 stating the car was made in 2010.

Let us/me know how you get on.

Good luck wink

Steve

p1doc

Original Poster:

3,709 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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thanks will be in post office tomorrow...
martin

roger_spitfire

149 posts

233 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Just to add to the "no mot required" brigade, I had my car IVAd & registered last year; the V5 says 'date of first registration xx 07 2010' & the guy who inspected it for registration said that, because it is newly registered (with an 'old' age-related registration) I don't need an mot done for 3 years. I took it to the inspection with an mot & he said I needn't have done that either. May be I'll have a discussion this coming July - but I hope not.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

288 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Steve_D said:
I like that form.
It asks for when the vehicle was made...so you can say 'I made it xxxxxxx'.

The V5 will say 'Date first registered' Which may be many years back if it is an age related plate. I don't know what a Q plate V5 says in date of first registration. The V5 has no box for manufacture date.

Steve
Now that's interesting..