Ceiling replacement
Discussion
Clipso stretch ceiling Easy DiY job but the materials quite pricey. Result is superb.
Right.
To reply to Spudler.
Technically, Busamav is correct. You should remove all traces of the existing ceiling, laths, plaster, nails, bits of mortar and all sort of crap that has fallen on the ceiling in the past, re-board and reskim.
Trouble with this is that unless the ceiling is absolutely, totally knackered; (and even if it isn't) you'll generate piles of rubbish to remove, and have dust all over everywhere as well, and then still have to re-board.
Overboarding removes the need for most of the dust and mess, and in most cases you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Having done both ways, I know which one I'd be looking at doing unless I couldn't avoid it.
But in the end, it's up to whoever is having the job done, and what suits them best.
Regards.
To reply to Spudler.
Technically, Busamav is correct. You should remove all traces of the existing ceiling, laths, plaster, nails, bits of mortar and all sort of crap that has fallen on the ceiling in the past, re-board and reskim.
Trouble with this is that unless the ceiling is absolutely, totally knackered; (and even if it isn't) you'll generate piles of rubbish to remove, and have dust all over everywhere as well, and then still have to re-board.
Overboarding removes the need for most of the dust and mess, and in most cases you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Having done both ways, I know which one I'd be looking at doing unless I couldn't avoid it.
But in the end, it's up to whoever is having the job done, and what suits them best.
Regards.
I only suggested take it down as the OP mentioned parts of the existing were already falling down.
We have some rooms with totally new ceilings and others where we have overboarded and skimmed , all depending on the state of the existing .
It does make a mess , but it is the right way to do it , you then get a chance to fill the void with dense quilt to stop noise transfer to possible bedrooms above .
In fact one of the ceilings we removed , was to assist with the rewire and placement of new sockets in the bedroom above .
We have some rooms with totally new ceilings and others where we have overboarded and skimmed , all depending on the state of the existing .
It does make a mess , but it is the right way to do it , you then get a chance to fill the void with dense quilt to stop noise transfer to possible bedrooms above .
In fact one of the ceilings we removed , was to assist with the rewire and placement of new sockets in the bedroom above .
mrmaggit said:
Right.
To reply to Spudler.
Technically, Busamav is correct. You should remove all traces of the existing ceiling, laths, plaster, nails, bits of mortar and all sort of crap that has fallen on the ceiling in the past, re-board and reskim.
Trouble with this is that unless the ceiling is absolutely, totally knackered; (and even if it isn't) you'll generate piles of rubbish to remove, and have dust all over everywhere as well, and then still have to re-board.
Overboarding removes the need for most of the dust and mess, and in most cases you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Having done both ways, I know which one I'd be looking at doing unless I couldn't avoid it.
But in the end, it's up to whoever is having the job done, and what suits them best.
Regards.
Having done the all down and replace, it is really bloody messy - overboarding is OK, just be careful to check it hasn't been done before, as you can end up putting a bit too much weight in the ceiling, but you'dprobably need to overboard a couple of times before it became a problem To reply to Spudler.
Technically, Busamav is correct. You should remove all traces of the existing ceiling, laths, plaster, nails, bits of mortar and all sort of crap that has fallen on the ceiling in the past, re-board and reskim.
Trouble with this is that unless the ceiling is absolutely, totally knackered; (and even if it isn't) you'll generate piles of rubbish to remove, and have dust all over everywhere as well, and then still have to re-board.
Overboarding removes the need for most of the dust and mess, and in most cases you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Having done both ways, I know which one I'd be looking at doing unless I couldn't avoid it.
But in the end, it's up to whoever is having the job done, and what suits them best.
Regards.
Busamav said:
I only suggested take it down as the OP mentioned parts of the existing were already falling down.
We have some rooms with totally new ceilings and others where we have overboarded and skimmed , all depending on the state of the existing .
It does make a mess , but it is the right way to do it , you then get a chance to fill the void with dense quilt to stop noise transfer to possible bedrooms above .
In fact one of the ceilings we removed , was to assist with the rewire and placement of new sockets in the bedroom above .
Overboarding also stops noise, another benefit. We have some rooms with totally new ceilings and others where we have overboarded and skimmed , all depending on the state of the existing .
It does make a mess , but it is the right way to do it , you then get a chance to fill the void with dense quilt to stop noise transfer to possible bedrooms above .
In fact one of the ceilings we removed , was to assist with the rewire and placement of new sockets in the bedroom above .
cjs said:
It will make one hell of a mess, better off screwing new plasterboard over the existing ceiling, then tape and skim. Price above about right.
Agree, did the same on an old lath & plaster ceiling, just means for the OP to find the beams, take off worse of the lath & plaster, fix plasterboard and skim over.cjs said:
It will make one hell of a mess, better off screwing new plasterboard over the existing ceiling, then tape and skim. Price above about right.
Agree, did the same on an old lath & plaster ceiling, just means for the OP to find the beams, take off worse of the lath & plaster, fix plasterboard and skim over.There is no 'technically correct' answer! Just the solution that you prefer or the solution that the condition of the lath and plaster dictates. Another reason NOT to take down the old ceiling is that the lath and plaster may be disguising very uneven joists, such that the ceiling will look like a sea with plasterboard, so that will create even more work on top of the mess.
Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff