At what point does spirited driving become ragging it

[maniac0796]

Was mulling it over today as I went for a little blast. Making the engine sing and trying to perfect my corner lines.

People on here say they go for spirited drives, but then say they wouldn't buy a car if it's been potentially ragged.

When does one become the other?

[anonymous-user]

For me, it would be driving spiritedly before the engine and gearbox/diff oils have warmed up properly, not allowing engine and brakes to cool a little before parking up, driving at the rev limiter unneccesarily when a change up in gear should be made, dumping the clutch at high revs.

[wackojacko]

yellowbentines said:

For me, it would be driving spiritedly before the engine and gearbox/diff oils have warmed up properly, not allowing engine and brakes to cool a little before parking up, driving at the rev limiter unneccesarily when a change up in gear should be made.

I'd agree with that .....

[Ozzie Osmond]

maniac0796 said:

When does one become the other?

On a track day
or
It's a turbo car
or
The engine's too small
or
You're a complete muppet.

[FreezerWeasel]

the difference for me is in the consideration of and sympathy for the mechanics of the vehicle. this is also offset by your attitude to maintenance.

[davepoth]

When you are driving beyond the normal limits of the car. For example, if you cook the brake fluid, or burn out the clutch, or bang the car to the rev limiter at every shift. It's possible to be fast and gentle.

[mrtwisty]

Engine braking too much, ie. that horrible scream you hear coming from the front of a saxo driven by a knob going from fourth to second at highish revs. Not good for the synchro/collets.

[Fort Jefferson]

maniac0796 said:

Was mulling it over today as I went for a little blast. Making the engine sing and trying to perfect my corner lines.

People on here say they go for spirited drives, but then say they wouldn't buy a car if it's been potentially ragged.

When does one become the other?

The moment you crash.