Type 9 box in a 3000M????
Type 9 box in a 3000M????
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R44DOR

Original Poster:

103 posts

270 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Can you fit a type 9 gearbox in a 3000M to replace the 4 speed unit?

pistolar

1,474 posts

285 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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yes

R44DOR

Original Poster:

103 posts

270 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Is it an easy change

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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In a M 4 speed ..Start with the correct box (rebuilt OR EVEN uprated front bearing unit on a 2.8 cable speedo tail housing with input shaft mod) bell housing, (either yours modified (I do these) or old ford or new alloy) new cross member (I stock these) IMHO quick-shift (to stop any interior trim change) and mod to gear lever to suit position, clutch release bearing (at the VERY least), spigot bearing, steel ended version of the speedo cable, speedo recalibration.

On a ROAD car the very best thing you will do to the car ...but 1st and 2nd are close, almost notchy and the box needs a little patience until warm (NOTHING that respect of the speed limits will not naturally cope with) good for 150 BHP ONLY any thing more and you need a professional to build the box.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Tuesday 22 February 07:58

ATE399J

732 posts

254 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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You might find this link of some help....

http://www.capri.pl/garage/5speed.html

R44DOR

Original Poster:

103 posts

270 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Thanks for all your help

TaimarTurbo

98 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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I found this, and although it's for a Marcos, it may prove helpfull.
(Also has the Ford Essex v6)
http://www.marcos-restoration.net/downloads/marcos...

Fred

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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TaimarTurbo said:
I found this, and although it's for a Marcos, it may prove helpfull.
(Also has the Ford Essex v6)
http://www.marcos-restoration.net/downloads/marcos...

Fred
Hi Fred, this Marcos conversion MIGHT apply IF the 3000M had already got the overdrive version fitted....the 4 speed (that I convert the customers unit)/alloy/OE ford bell housing is a different unit, so this will be a little different.
Adrian@

TaimarTurbo

98 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Ah, well spotted!
I haven't read the paper, I only noticed the title and thought it may be helpful.

Fred

Voodoo13

334 posts

270 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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How about, Can you fit a type 9 gearbox in a 2500M to replace the 4 speed unit? If so where would I find a belhousing.

Slow M

2,834 posts

223 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Voodoo13 said:
How about, Can you fit a type 9 gearbox in a 2500M to replace the 4 speed unit? If so where would I find a belhousing.
Have you considered a Laycock OD?
B

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Been here before....Triumph 2500..Triumph TR6 ...perhaps....http://www.revingtontr.com/shop/Collection_Display.asp?mscssid=4f232x6399759l0gs1kbv8q36bwr96sa&cid=1395&CarType=TR6&submit= (copy and paste into browser)
No prices however.
Adrian@

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

299 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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If you want to go the overdrive route with your 2500 I have a perfect gearbox with overdrive under my bench.

Voodoo13

334 posts

270 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Currently, the car has an 4 speed OD gearbox unit fitted but would prefer 5 speed. I'm in the process of stripping the car for restoration and looking to have gearbox mock up/dry build before I send the chassis for paint.

heightswitch

6,322 posts

267 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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The old 3 ltr 4 speed was always knows for its bullet proof reliability and very good ratios. At 1 point I even ran a 300hp V8 with a one on the back and an adapter plate.

It seems to me that having an original 4 speed plus overdrive is a pretty good thing for a TVR.

The type 9 is a weaker box with not particularly good ratios in standard form and a notchy shift.

5th gear is also known to shear of the end of the shaft

I can understand upgrading a 3ltr to a T5 box but not a type 9 ??

N.

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Neil,
Voodoo 13 has a 2500M with the Triumph O/D box (I quite liked the box in ours when Joolz ran one).
Adrian@

heightswitch

6,322 posts

267 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Adrian@ said:
Neil,
Voodoo 13 has a 2500M with the Triumph O/D box (I quite liked the box in ours when Joolz ran one).
Adrian@
I was referring to the original Poster, but even again. the standard triumph 4 speed with j type overdrive on 2nd, 3rd and 4th, or 3rd and 4th if a later model is a lovely gearbox. It wouldn't be something I would be in a hurry to replace with a Type 9!

I think a type 9 on a warmed up 4 cylinder engine is about as much as I would like to do with one.

N

TVR_owner

3,349 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Stuck a very high spec T5 on the race car. It was notchy and not very direct. Since had some work by J Ried with a Hurst quick shift and it is now the box I expected it to be, BUT, and a big one...quite expensive (new).

Adrian@

4,420 posts

299 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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TVR_owner said:
Stuck a very high spec T5 on the race car. It was notchy and not very direct. Since had some work by J Ried with a Hurst quick shift and it is now the box I expected it to be, BUT, and a big one...quite expensive (new).
This cured mine too!

Sorry Neil, I stand by what I said previusly...my type 9 in the 3000s made the car, I can't say that the box is in any way as good as the 4 speed for being perfectly clean in the change BUT normal road usage and I love it.
Adrian@

Edited by Adrian@ on Tuesday 22 February 09:07

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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When the 4spd OD when bang in my Tuscan I replaced it with a T5. The work was carried out by Dulfords and it transformed the driving experience.