DNA samples of innocents to be deleted
DNA samples of innocents to be deleted
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Marf

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Zod

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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vonhosen won't like this.

boredofmyoldname

22,655 posts

229 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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I like the idea of them having my DNA on file.

It means that when they are looking for men matching my description for a crime I will be instantly eliminated by DNA evidence probably without having to explain what I was doing to anyone.

chimster

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239 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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yes

philthy

4,697 posts

270 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
I like the idea of them having my DNA on file.

It means that when they are looking for men matching my description for a crime I will be instantly eliminated by DNA evidence probably without having to explain what I was doing to anyone.
rofl
Feel free to give them permission to keep yours then.

Agree with OP, about fking time!

boredofmyoldname

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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philthy said:
boredofmyoldname said:
I like the idea of them having my DNA on file.

It means that when they are looking for men matching my description for a crime I will be instantly eliminated by DNA evidence probably without having to explain what I was doing to anyone.
rofl
Feel free to give them permission to keep yours then.

Agree with OP, about fking time!
Why do you laugh at that? If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.

I have little faith in our justice system delivering the correct punishment, but I do have an awful lot of faith in the integrity of the system to charge the right people with most crimes.

Marf

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
I like the idea of them having my DNA on file.

It means that when they are looking for men matching my description for a crime I will be instantly eliminated by DNA evidence probably without having to explain what I was doing to anyone.
Well go jizz in a pot and throw it at your nearest desk sargeant. I'm sure your sample will be recorded smile

boredofmyoldname said:
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.
Troll post is troll like.

CommanderJameson

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ahem.

Where was I?

Oh, yes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

boredofmyoldname

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229 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Marf said:
Troll post is troll like.
It really isn't a troll post, it is my opinion.

Tell me what is wrong with someone having your DNA on record.

Marf

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boredofmyoldname said:
Marf said:
Troll post is troll like.
It really isn't a troll post, it is my opinion.

Tell me what is wrong with someone having your DNA on record.
It's my personal property and I do not want it recorded for no good reason. smile

That's about the size of it and thankfully our government agrees.

Like I said, if you want your DNA kept on file so you can be eliminated from enquiries, go volunteer your DNA. You won't though, will you? smile

PintOfKittens

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220 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
It really isn't a troll post, it is my opinion.

Tell me what is wrong with someone having your DNA on record.
You mean despite the fact that the government loose every kind of data imaginable, from 7 million claimant's names and addresses, to top secret iraq invasion plans, and everything inbetween?

CommanderJameson

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256 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
It really isn't a troll post, it is my opinion.

Tell me what is wrong with someone having your DNA on record.
Horrendous monster rapes and murders numerous children (or commits any crime, feel free to add your own)

DNA left at scene.

DNA match comes up inconclusive but you're near enough (DNA isn't a magic bullet, nor is it foolproof; CSI is fiction)

And all of a sudden your life is fked because you're the named prime suspect in a child rape case.

Sure, you're cleared because there's insufficient evidence, but st sticks and you can't unpublish your name and picture in the local rag.


boredofmyoldname

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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PintOfKittens said:
You mean despite the fact that the government loose every kind of data imaginable, from 7 million claimant's names and addresses, to top secret iraq invasion plans, and everything inbetween?
What will someone do with my DNA clone me?


Marf said:
It's my personal property and I do not want it recorded for no good reason. smile

That's about the size of it and thankfully our government agrees.

Like I said, if you want your DNA kept on file so you can be eliminated from enquiries, go volunteer your DNA. You won't though, will you? smile
Fair enough. I don't plan on offering it but if they had it I wouldn't be concerned.

nevgroom

2,183 posts

189 months

Tuesday 15th February 2011
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Marf said:
boredofmyoldname said:
Marf said:
Troll post is troll like.
It really isn't a troll post, it is my opinion.

Tell me what is wrong with someone having your DNA on record.
It's my personal property and I do not want it recorded for no good reason. smile

That's about the size of it and thankfully our government agrees.

Like I said, if you want your DNA kept on file so you can be eliminated from enquiries, go volunteer your DNA. You won't though, will you? smile
Utter gash!! I certainly will be volunteering mine. Why, becasue I have nothing to hide, want to help out the establishment wherever reasonably possible and if I can ever be one suspect cleared off a list in a nanosecond then it would have been worth it.

I have not seen a valid (I emphasise valid as many are purile) arguement against it!! I fear HMG has been suckered into this one in exchange for an easy ride somewhere else....

PintOfKittens

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
PintOfKittens said:
You mean despite the fact that the government loose every kind of data imaginable, from 7 million claimant's names and addresses, to top secret iraq invasion plans, and everything inbetween?
What will someone do with my DNA clone me?
Frame you for something - http://www.taranfx.com/scientists-unlock-diy-dna-b...

Thar link above said:
“Any biology undergraduate could perform this,” said Dan Frumkin, lead author of the paper, published in the journal Genetics. The paper asserts that the possibility of DNA evidence being fudged to finger someone else has been overlooked by law enforcement, which has come to rely on DNA matching as a centerpiece of conviction and exoneration of criminal suspects.

CommanderJameson

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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nevgroom said:
I have not seen a valid (I emphasise valid as many are purile) arguement against it!! I fear HMG has been suckered into this one in exchange for an easy ride somewhere else....
Go on, go and invalidate or show to be puerile my argument, a couple of posts up.

Marf

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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nevgroom said:
I certainly will be volunteering mine. Why, becasue I have nothing to hide, want to help out the establishment wherever reasonably possible and if I can ever be one suspect cleared off a list in a nanosecond then it would have been worth it.
Let us know when you have volunteered your DNA, theres a good boy. smile

nevgroom

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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CommanderJameson said:
nevgroom said:
I have not seen a valid (I emphasise valid as many are purile) arguement against it!! I fear HMG has been suckered into this one in exchange for an easy ride somewhere else....
Go on, go and invalidate or show to be puerile my argument, a couple of posts up.
"Many are puerile" - Yours is red-top scaremongering quoting an extremely unlikely occurence to influence the uneducated IMHO

Oakey

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Tuesday 15th February 2011
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boredofmyoldname said:
Why do you laugh at that? If you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to be afraid of.

I have little faith in our justice system delivering the correct punishment, but I do have an awful lot of faith in the integrity of the system to charge the right people with most crimes.
Are you really this naive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_McKie

Wiki said:
Shirley McKie is a former Scottish police detective who was wrongly accused by fingerprint analysis staff of the Scottish Criminal Record Office (SCRO) of leaving her thumb print on the bathroom door frame of a murder crime-scene in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, on 14 January 1997. [1][2] She denied she had ever been in the house of murder victim Marion Ross, but Detective Constable McKie was initially suspended, then sacked, then arrested by Strathclyde Police in 1998, and tried and acquitted in 1999. A scandal subsequently developed because of allegations of misconduct on the part of the SCRO and the police.
NOTHING TO HIDE. NOTHING TO FEAR... oh... wait

CommanderJameson

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nevgroom said:
"Many are puerile" - Yours is red-top scaremongering quoting an extremely unlikely occurence to influence the uneducated IMHO
So that'd be a "no, I can't invalidate it", then.

So what if it's extremely unlikely? So is me dying prematurely, but I've still got life insurance.

I drive on some of the safest roads on the planet, but every year, 3000-odd people have an unfortunate death experience, which is also "extremely unlikely".

You have no logical position from which to argue, so your tactic is to dismiss and belittle any argument put forward by people with whom you disagree.