paint laquer for matt finish

[geeeman]

hi

to acheive a slightly matted finish (to resemble a period 'worn' effect)
would i be right in saying a metallic paint is applied, and laquer also, but the finish rub/down polishing isnt performed??

is this achievable, and are there any disadvantages to having this paint finish on a fibreglass car?

many thanks

[mad4amanda]

no just add a matting agent to the laquer.

[geeeman]

oh ok, but would this make repairs more difficult to colour match?

[Reflectology]

if you are going to go down the matt effect route you cant even use a shampoo with wax in it mate, also for protection you need a coating that doesnt give a gloss finish....just something to think about...

[geeeman]

dont want totally matt
just a slightly less shiny metallic finish..?

how to acheive that? someone told me u can stil laquer but no do less final polishing etc....

[Anatol]

Lacquer application doesn't work like that. If you tried to use forced poor gun technique to leave a dull surface, you'd be introducing lots of fine, irregular texture.

The most durable finish will be regular. A regular surface will naturally be glossy. Hence the addition of matting agents to the clearcoat so that a regular surface will be more matt.

Most big-name systems will have a matting agent that can be added into their clears - the more you add, the lower the gloss of the final topcoat.

[matt will]

Swissvax make a range of products called Opaque which are designed for matt/satin finishes. Comprises wax, shampoo and quick detail spray.

[geeeman]

thanks. if u add a matting agent, is it then more difficult to do a localised repair/repaint if necessary in future?

[Anatol]

Yes. It's not feasible to do a localised respray with matted lacquer and fade the clearcoat edge in. The entire panel would need to be cleared. Also, unless the repairer is using the same refinish materials and has the exact ratio of matting agent added to the clear by whoever did the original matt paintjob, ensuring the same degree of gloss on the repaired panel as the adjoining ones is very difficult indeed.

[geeeman]

ok i see
so if a normal laquer is used (no matting agent) how can you acheive a less glossy finish?

[Anatol]

Conceivably, you could deglaze the finish by damaging the surface with a fine abrasive. 3000 grit trizact leaves a satin half-gloss. Getting the effect without it being obvious what path across the surface you'd worked would be a challenge though.

It also wouldn't look worn, or period. It would look like it had been deliberately deglazed.

[geeeman]

ok, how about a paint that is already matt. the car below is apparently painted in a matt silver.

are these paint codes available?

[Reflectology]

Single stage metallic is what your after but I doubt very much you will get your hands on it, its been extinct for almost 30-35 yrs, if you want to try it get a fine grey scotch pad and do a wing, see what it looks like, if you dont like it polish it....