Main Dealer says bushes need replacing - Really?
Main Dealer says bushes need replacing - Really?
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CampDavid

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9,145 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Mum just called, her Fabia vRS is in for a service and MOT. Dealer says the lower suspension arm bushes on each side are split and it'll be £250 for new ones. Without them no MOT

Does this seem quite steep. It also seems odd that a 5 year old Fabia with 60,000 miles should need these doing, car has been driven by my 54 year old Mum the whole time, it's totally standard.

Any advice on what she should do?

LuS1fer

43,517 posts

275 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Probably right but probably worth taking it somewhere else for the bushes to be done. I had a Punto which had a similar issue and it was cheaper to replace the arms than change the bushes. It's only rubber at the end of the day.

steveo3002

11,211 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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anyones guess how bad yours are

dealers do have a habit of saying things are spent if theres a minor mark on the bush or a bit off rust on the edge of a brake disc

can you pop down and have a look?

tomsimes

156 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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They are very common failures on those cars - most go between 40-60k before they need replacing.

Mine is also a 5 year old car, but I dropped it off at the dealer a couple of weeks ago for a knocking noise under their used car warranty - they also diagnosed it as bushes.

They will probably be replacing the entire arms at that price too, is it's a very labourious process to remove and refit the bushes into the arms.

That's also a normal sort of price for them from a dealer, but an indy may be approx £180 I think.

trickywoo

14,212 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Our roads give bushes a very hard time and 60K miles doesn't seem unreasonable.

£250 is a bit steep though. I had a quote to rebush the whole of the front suspension on a 528 for just over £100.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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If you go somewhere else you're alreday £50 down because you'll have to pay for another MoT. Unless you're confident there's nothing wrong (and I wouldn't be after 5 years and 60,000 miles) it sounds like a case for just paying up. Saves a lot of running about too.

rallycross

13,757 posts

267 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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The fact is dont go to a main dealer with an older car for mots, or for servicing unless you have no other options and are prepared to be fleeced.

Worn suspension bushes are fair enough at that mileage but its a subjective thing, if you take it round the corner to a small MOT garage he might well pass them with no advisories.

If he does fail it then you know they needed doing, and his cost to do them using wishbones from a motor factor and his lower labour cost will be less than the cost of the main dealer and the additional mot.

Dracoro

9,026 posts

275 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Just ask for the old bushes to be left in the boot. No old bushes, not paying etc.

Same goes for anything you have doubts of (esp brakes) as if they're nothing wrong with them the dealer may backtrack. If they are shot, they'll have no issues leaving you with the old parts.

CampDavid

Original Poster:

9,145 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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Cheers for the responses.

Sounds like they're not ripping her off but they are expensive. It's not had the test done yet so I think she'll just settle for the service and then get the bushes and MOT done at a garage we use around the corner.

FRMATT

526 posts

192 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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If you fancy a go... wink

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/92625-fabia-wishb...hlcupra%20bushes

morrellski

117 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th February 2011
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sounds about right. its a common failure with all the skoda vrs models around that age.

IanA2

2,897 posts

192 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Thread resurrection....!!!


Just been told by the dealer that both rear bushes need replacing soon.

It's a very low mileage 2017 Rav4.

When I queried it and mentioned the very low mileage, the response was:

"They perished because you use it so little"

Seems strange to me, but is he right?

Opinions gratefully recieved.

Thanks folks


anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Materials used for bushings degrade with time regardless of use. They are consumables. 6 years old bushings needing to be replaced is believable.

A worn bushing is likely to put extra stress on other suspension components. If you are going to keep the car, I’d just get them done before they become a problem.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 27th September 12:26

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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IanA2 said:
Thread resurrection....!!!


Just been told by the dealer that both rear bushes need replacing soon.

It's a very low mileage 2017 Rav4.

When I queried it and mentioned the very low mileage, the response was:

"They perished because you use it so little"

Seems strange to me, but is he right?

Opinions gratefully recieved.

Thanks folks
I would tell them to go ahead but I'd need to see the condition of the old parts they have taken off before paying the bill.

With it being 6 years old, even with low mileage, theres a fair chance they arent fibbing.

nismocat

944 posts

38 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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If they’re anything like the Audi S4 (and other Audis) it’ll be a long job and they’ll find other stuff that needs doing too.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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At a main dealer it's usually "need replacement" = not perfect, rather than needs replacing because it's no longer doing the right job.

IanA2

2,897 posts

192 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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wyson said:
Will it void Toyota’s extended warranty for that bit of the car if you are doing it through a main dealer and you don’t get them done?
No doubt I'll find out. What interests me is the "worn through lack of use".

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

130 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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IanA2 said:
wyson said:
Will it void Toyota’s extended warranty for that bit of the car if you are doing it through a main dealer and you don’t get them done?
No doubt I'll find out. What interests me is the "worn through lack of use".
I sometimes wonder about what you get told at the service desk. I presume the mechanic flags that something needs changing via their report, most people will just pay it without question. For those that do question it, you then get a non mechanic on the service desk making up excuses on the spot to justify the work.

IanA2

2,897 posts

192 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Jag_NE said:
IanA2 said:
wyson said:
Will it void Toyota’s extended warranty for that bit of the car if you are doing it through a main dealer and you don’t get them done?
No doubt I'll find out. What interests me is the "worn through lack of use".
I sometimes wonder about what you get told at the service desk. I presume the mechanic flags that something needs changing via their report, most people will just pay it without question. For those that do question it, you then get a non mechanic on the service desk making up excuses on the spot to justify the work.
It's funny how things that were working before the service/MoT, stopped working on arrival.

Last year it was windscreen wiper blades which were fine until it went in, this year, as well as the bushes, the water for wipers apparently is not working. There was no problem the last time the car was out. £99 to investigate, no idea what the final walletectomy will be.

IanA2

2,897 posts

192 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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wyson said:
Materials used for bushings degrade with time regardless of use. They are consumables. 6 years old bushings needing to be replaced is believable.

A worn bushing is likely to put extra stress on other suspension components. If you are going to keep the car, I’d just get them done before they become a problem.

Edited by wyson on Wednesday 27th September 12:26
I may well do, what interests me at the moment is the reason I was given for them needing replacement, i.e. lack of use!!