Electric supercharger??
Electric supercharger??
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mistermagoo

Original Poster:

62 posts

194 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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seen this advertised any feed back and would it affect the insurance

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TVR-VORTEX-ELECTRIC-SUPERCHA...

scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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£145 for that eek I suspect your insurance will have fits of laughter if you tell them you plan to fit that Max power bolt on laugh

i hope this is a wind up wink

phillpot

17,523 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Lot of money for a 12 volt vacuum cleaner !

Would be interested to see an independant test (reputable car magazine for example ?)


scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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phillpot said:
Lot of money for a 12 volt vacuum cleaner !

Would be interested to see an independant test (reputable car magazine for example ?)
It has been done by max power IIRC when i was like 14 years old And did the square root of hee haw apart from make your bank balance £145 lighter. hehe

Blues

8,546 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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rofl
I see it is fitted to that magnificent Vauxhall Ecotec engine, the most powerful and popular engine ever used by TVR

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

279 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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And its going to defeat the laws of thermodynamics by what means?

mistermagoo

Original Poster:

62 posts

194 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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bkss i thought it would make it go faster !!!

EggsBenedict

1,796 posts

205 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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fat chance.

blitzracing

6,422 posts

251 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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You cant even REACH the peak air flow of a TVR engine with a 2.5kw blower motor (That about 200 amps at 12 volts) let alone boost it, so anything you put inline with the air intake will be a restriction. It has been done successfully by a guy in the States (not on a TVR however) but it needed 3 big motors to drive it and flattened the battery so fast you could only use it like nitro for a few second to gain the extra BHP.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Devastatingly effective at parting a fool from his money.

lesstatt

4,318 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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In my youth (1983) after hearing about forced induction we MADE ONE for my friends MK3 cortina out of a biscuit tin bolted to the top of the carb into which we put a three speed granada heater blower sourced from a scrap yard................ we expected big things. After fitting we found a long piece of road and went for it...................... errrrrrrrrrrr mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nothing, still makes me laugh now as we anticipated so much from it, almost knight rider ramp launch esk

Edited by lesstatt on Saturday 19th February 19:46

mrmr96

13,736 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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IanMorewood said:
And its going to defeat the laws of thermodynamics by what means?
Explain how blowing more air and thereby allowing MORE FUEL to be burnt would defeat the laws of thermal dynamics?

wongthecorrupter

2,766 posts

202 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Thats brilliant.

TVR keith

1,915 posts

253 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Fits DIESEL TVR's as well........

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

279 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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mrmr96 said:
IanMorewood said:
And its going to defeat the laws of thermodynamics by what means?
Explain how blowing more air and thereby allowing MORE FUEL to be burnt would defeat the laws of thermal dynamics?
Granted if the blower can increase airflow (and fuel) then this could generate an increase in power if the charge can be used. However to raise this charge the engine will have to work harder to provide the electricity to turn the blower to produce the increased charge. This type of electric blower being much less efficient than a turbo or regular mechanical supercharger your going to have to increase air and fuel charge a hell of a lot to gain the 20% power increase stated in the advert. The chance of you being able to do that without detonating the engine? Slim I would say.

lesstatt

4,318 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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IanMorewood said:
Granted if the blower can increase airflow (and fuel) then this could generate an increase in power if the charge can be used. However to raise this charge the engine will have to work harder to provide the electricity to turn the blower to produce the increased charge. This type of electric blower being much less efficient than a turbo or regular mechanical supercharger your going to have to increase air and fuel charge a hell of a lot to gain the 20% power increase stated in the advert. The chance of you being able to do that without detonating the engine? Slim I would say.
May i refer you to my earlier post :-)

andy450

145 posts

197 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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just imagine the damage to the internals as all that useless bling breaks up and gets sucked into ya p&j at 5000rpm frown,,,,,could try act induction kit for some genuine benefit for not alot more money !! smilesmile

Blues

8,546 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Just do a proper job and be done.

425 bhp 409 torques thumbup





Stevie Mojo

1,520 posts

268 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Blues said:
Just do a proper job and be done.

425 bhp 409 torques thumbup




Yes please.

oily mist

149 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Arf arf! Earlier in my career I worked with big engines (including a few industrial derivative gas generators (jets)). Even a modest internal combustion engine needs a lot of air. Pretty sure a 12 volt fan isn't going to get close to keeping up.

I also notice from the flea-bay ad that the seller claims 20% increase for everything this piece of tat is bolted to. That's everything from a Citroen Saxo (1.4l) through to a TVR.

And the "no mechanical skills required" USP. Brilliant! If only those fools trying to gain extra power for their TVRs had thought of this. Next years rule change for F1 anyone?

Must stop now, my ribs are aching.