Council caught out using crushed brick
Council caught out using crushed brick
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Sunnysidebb

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1,384 posts

190 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Hi all,
I live in Alexandria, Dunbartonshire. Do you remember the bad Snow we had in November ( not that we could forget), well we have had this Red coloured grit substance all over the roads and paths. It isn't washing away or crushing into powder and remains the size of about 1/2 a Pea still to today. On inspection it looks like crushed up brick. Well it is, the local rag has published the fact. That is what the council has been using from an old brick making slag heap. Begs the question , how many of us drove behind and overtook a gritter spreading crushed brick. That cant be good for the paint work or the tyres.
The damn stuff is every where.Our pavements are pure Red and the kerbs are still abut 1 to 2 mm deep in the stuff. Must be a nightmare for cyclists!!!!
Anyone else had a similar experience??
Frank

sherman

14,899 posts

238 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Linlithgow is covered in the same stuff. I did wonder why it wasnt washing away. Last year they were using some black stuff that didnt wash away either. I think that was coal ash.

A.J.M

8,315 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Yep, stuff's everywhere here, wondow how much good it will do to the drains when it eventually finds it's way into them. smile

Angelus

2,209 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Yip, Lanark is still covered in it.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

241 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Begs the question - why??? confused

SportsLibre

590 posts

235 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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MarkRSi said:
Begs the question - why??? confused
Cost, re-use, recycling national shortage of grit (most of it is imported) take your pick I would suspect number 1...

Craigie

1,232 posts

202 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Not sure how true it is but my aunt told me that when it snows heavy in Canada, they put down stones, not grit to try and help with grip.

Once the snow season is over they sent out trucks to basically hoover it back up again?

S2red

2,549 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Red stuff all over pavements in Glasgow

Jo Po

175 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Not saying your wrong, But the new style grit they use is red. So most people who think they have brick in their street, its probably the new red grit.

Tunku

7,703 posts

251 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Small stones all over the roads here. More yellow than red, but distinguishable from the black stones kicked out by all the fking potholes. My cars are filled with the little stones, was underneath the V70, and every bit of level suface eg. suspension arms have fking small stones all over them. Not fking happy.

Sunnysidebb

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1,384 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Jo Po said:
Not saying your wrong, But the new style grit they use is red. So most people who think they have brick in their street, its probably the new red grit.
I would love to think it was just grit, but its hard and dosn't seem to crushdown into powder. It feels like its been fired?? Our local paper said the council had been using crushed brick. But it seems most parts of the Clyde and Glasgow area have been using what ever it is. You have to think thats a lot of brick waste??
What ever it is, they shouldn't be using it imo.
Frank

sinizter

3,348 posts

209 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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sherman said:
Linlithgow is covered in the same stuff. I did wonder why it wasnt washing away. Last year they were using some black stuff that didnt wash away either. I think that was coal ash.
Is coal ash dangerous ?

I don't know how good/bad coal ash is, but people living near coal fired power stations receive more nuclear radiation than people living near a nuclear power station.

S2red

2,549 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Jo Po said:
Not saying your wrong, But the new style grit they use is red. So most people who think they have brick in their street, its probably the new red grit.
It's only on pavements so dont think its "salt/grit" and it does not wash away

Speed addicted

6,280 posts

250 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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sinizter said:
Is coal ash dangerous ?

I don't know how good/bad coal ash is, but people living near coal fired power stations receive more nuclear radiation than people living near a nuclear power station.
In a 1978 paper for Science, J. P. McBride at Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) and his colleagues looked at the uranium and thorium content of fly ash from coal-fired power plants in Tennessee and Alabama.

McBride and his co-authors estimated that individuals living near coal-fired installations are exposed to a maximum of 1.9 millirems of fly ash radiation yearly. To put these numbers in perspective, the average person encounters 360 millirems of annual "background radiation" from natural and man-made sources, including substances in Earth's crust, cosmic rays, residue from nuclear tests and smoke detectors.

Dana Christensen, associate lab director for energy and engineering at ORNL, says that health risks from radiation in coal by-products are low. "Other risks like being hit by lightning," he adds, "are three or four times greater than radiation-induced health effects from coal plants." And McBride and his co-authors emphasize that other products of coal power, like emissions of acid rain–producing sulfur dioxide and smog-forming nitrous oxide, pose greater health risks than radiation.

So no, it's not.


Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Trade secret that gravel is used here in East Lothian.Must think we're stupid.

Sunnysidebb

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1,384 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Sunday Rag has published the anger from the Locals, Council put out a statement which says its used "Red Blaze" for the roads and paths instead of salt grit. It also says it has no intention of cleaning it up until the bad weather has completely gone.
So its not Brick, paper published a Bum Ditt.lol

I googled Red Blaze and I think its the same stuff as football & sports pitches use. We use to call it "Red Grar"
Its a pain in the Arse, its blocking the treads on the car and making a thud thud as the wheels go around. God knows what will happen when it gets washed down the drains.
What really worries me is the amount still in the middle of the road and the effect on Motorbikes.
FRank

Edited by Sunnysidebb on Sunday 20th February 17:18

sinizter

3,348 posts

209 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Speed addicted said:
Stuff about coal and radiation....
Thanks for clearing that up.

Sunnysidebb

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1,384 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Radiation from Coal fired Power stations dont worry me....just retired from the Royal Navy, after 22 years in Nuclear Powered Submarines .eek Last of my wories. cool
Good info though, didnt know Coal Power did that.
Franksmile

ALY77

666 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Edinburgh used the same stuff. Basically padding out the proper road salt with crap that to this day I'm hoovering out the footwells of our cars.

Cheaper that way and makes the supply last longer. My old man had the ratios quoted by someone who was working at the mixing side of things during the winter, it made for alarming hearing, something like five to one ratio, the one being the pure rock salt that should have been going down neat.

CJK

73 posts

238 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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great when your on two wheels it is to ....NOT