Good ole 'Mericans - you do the 'Math'!
Good ole 'Mericans - you do the 'Math'!
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munroman

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1,907 posts

213 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Talking about the Daytona 500 , see if you can spot the mistake.....


'Two-car tandems have developed as the most efficient way of racing around Daytona, as events have proved so far at the recently paved 2.5-mile speedway. The new style of drafting has placed emphasis on engine cooling, and it is expected that little will change during Sunday's main event.

"I think with 43 cars tomorrow, you'll see 22 tandems," said Dale Earnhardt Jr, who earned pole position for the event but lost it while practicing last Wednesday when he was involved in a crash that forced him to a back up car.'

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89576

Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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Well it starts with "two car tandems"...

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

246 months

Saturday 19th February 2011
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So 43 cars and 22 tandems?

But this is NASCAR so maybe 43 could = 44 ! wink

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Jr. is going to be bump drafting the pace car, obviously.

paulrockliffe

16,557 posts

256 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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What's all this, sounds gash?

Crafty_

14,075 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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paulrockliffe said:
What's all this, sounds gash?
Daytona got resurfaced after the farce of last year. Big deal, they basically ripped the whole thing up and relaid it. Its now uber smooth, during the Rolex 24hr race it was said that they were breaking at 100 feet, instead of 100 yards.

During practice and warm up events it was found that NASCARs could "push", basically two cars run together, nose to tail. The front car punches a hole in the air, the second one doesn't have that disadvantage so uses their extra speed to shove the car in front. Previously it wasn't possible to do this at Daytona because of the bumps.
All good, except they were running over 200mph doing this - I think the highest was nearly 215mph. NASCAR got a bit scared, implemented smaller restrictor plates and limited the cooling apertures on the front of the car (was 2.5"x20", now 3"x20" for todays race).
The cooling becomes a problem as the second car basically gets no air to cool it and overheats - in the duels we saw cars swapping positions (pusher becomes the pushee) about every 4-5 laps to let the pusher engine cool.

Its gonna be a very different 500.

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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munroman said:
Talking about the Daytona 500 , see if you can spot the mistake.....


'Two-car tandems have developed as the most efficient way of racing around Daytona, as events have proved so far at the recently paved 2.5-mile speedway. The new style of drafting has placed emphasis on engine cooling, and it is expected that little will change during Sunday's main event.

"I think with 43 cars tomorrow, you'll see 22 tandems," said Dale Earnhardt Jr, who earned pole position for the event but lost it while practicing last Wednesday when he was involved in a crash that forced him to a back up car.'

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89576
Not a massive, horrendous or particularly significant mistake though, is it? Not one that warrants a thread title making a general statement about the intelligence of an entire nation, I wouldn't have thought.

What people would say about the British if the nation was judged on the accuracy of what came out of Murray Walkers mouth?

You wouldn't happen to be a massive Top Gear fan, would you?

Edited by 308mate on Sunday 20th February 09:38

munroman

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1,907 posts

213 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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308mate said:
munroman said:
Talking about the Daytona 500 , see if you can spot the mistake.....


'Two-car tandems have developed as the most efficient way of racing around Daytona, as events have proved so far at the recently paved 2.5-mile speedway. The new style of drafting has placed emphasis on engine cooling, and it is expected that little will change during Sunday's main event.

"I think with 43 cars tomorrow, you'll see 22 tandems," said Dale Earnhardt Jr, who earned pole position for the event but lost it while practicing last Wednesday when he was involved in a crash that forced him to a back up car.'

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89576
Not a massive, horrendous or particularly significant mistake though, is it? Not one that warrants a thread title making a general statement about the intelligence of an entire nation, I wouldn't have thought.

What people would say about the British if the nation was judged on the accuracy of what came out of Murray Walkers mouth?

You wouldn't happen to be a massive Top Gear fan, would you?

Edited by 308mate on Sunday 20th February 09:38
Have you been in the Deep South?, the company I worked for had to run special coaching classed for HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES to get them through the very basic MATH tests for really stretching questions like, 'there is an order for 100 parts, 4 parts to a carton, how many cartons do you need?'

Yes, seriously, the Americans you may have met/heard are the ones who are at the top end of the scale.

As for TG, yes, I watch it, I don't think it makes me a bad person, and the 'Adventure' set in the Deep South was not that untrue about the attitude to strangers and firearms.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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If you listen to pre- post- and even during-race interviews, some of the NASCAR drivers from the south do have really rather slack jaws...

I'm not too sure how the organisers think that bump drafting at 200mph is safe.

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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munroman said:
Have you been in the Deep South?, the company I worked for had to run special coaching classed for HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES to get them through the very basic MATH tests for really stretching questions like, 'there is an order for 100 parts, 4 parts to a carton, how many cartons do you need?'

Yes, seriously, the Americans you may have met/heard are the ones who are at the top end of the scale.

As for TG, yes, I watch it, I don't think it makes me a bad person, and the 'Adventure' set in the Deep South was not that untrue about the attitude to strangers and firearms.
A few points:

I've been as far south as somewhere in Shenandoah national park, so not that far.

There are undereducated parts of Britain too.

Your thread title wasn't "Good ol' some particular underpiveledged folk in specific parts of the deep south of the US", was it?

The assertion that that driver is particularly dumb himself or that an averagely intelligent person from the US is representative of " the top end if the scale" is a bit silly really.



Life Saab Itch

37,069 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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davepoth said:
I'm not too sure how the organisers think that bump drafting at 200mph is safe.
It's a grown ups game for big boys. It's part of the game.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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munroman said:
Have you been in the Deep South?, the company I worked for had to run special coaching classed for HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES to get them through the very basic MATH tests for really stretching questions like, 'there is an order for 100 parts, 4 parts to a carton, how many cartons do you need?'

Yes, seriously, the Americans you may have met/heard are the ones who are at the top end of the scale.

As for TG, yes, I watch it, I don't think it makes me a bad person, and the 'Adventure' set in the Deep South was not that untrue about the attitude to strangers and firearms.
Classes.

PabloTeK

1,073 posts

204 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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davepoth said:
Jr. is going to be bump drafting the pace car, obviously.
The pace car will be the only car not bent around the wall hehe

prostang

127 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Is it on tv

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Crafty_ said:
All good, except they were running over 200mph doing this - I think the highest was nearly 215mph. NASCAR got a bit scared, implemented smaller restrictor plates and limited the cooling apertures on the front of the car (was 2.5"x20", now 3"x20" for todays race).
The cooling becomes a problem as the second car basically gets no air to cool it and overheats - in the duels we saw cars swapping positions (pusher becomes the pushee) about every 4-5 laps to let the pusher engine cool.

Last time i did Maths 3" x 20" was a bigger surface area than 2.5" x 20" wink

Crafty_

14,075 posts

229 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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johnfelstead said:
Last time i did Maths 3" x 20" was a bigger surface area than 2.5" x 20" wink
Correct, they initially set it at 2.5" after the bud shootout last weekend, but opened it up to 3" for todays race in anticipation of higher ambient temps.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 20th February 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
It's a grown ups game for big boys. It's part of the game.
But I bet everyone would be happier if they ran without restrictor plates, which is proper grown up racing. wink

homer3uk

454 posts

260 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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308mate said:
munroman said:
Talking about the Daytona 500 , see if you can spot the mistake.....


'Two-car tandems have developed as the most efficient way of racing around Daytona, as events have proved so far at the recently paved 2.5-mile speedway. The new style of drafting has placed emphasis on engine cooling, and it is expected that little will change during Sunday's main event.

"I think with 43 cars tomorrow, you'll see 22 tandems," said Dale Earnhardt Jr, who earned pole position for the event but lost it while practicing last Wednesday when he was involved in a crash that forced him to a back up car.'

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89576
Not a massive, horrendous or particularly significant mistake though, is it? Not one that warrants a thread title making a general statement about the intelligence of an entire nation, I wouldn't have thought.

What people would say about the British if the nation was judged on the accuracy of what came out of Murray Walkers mouth?

You wouldn't happen to be a massive Top Gear fan, would you?

Edited by 308mate on Sunday 20th February 09:38
Typical yanks. No sense of hummor. If this was an Australian race series article being ridiculed they would laugh along, or at least have a witty response. I'm mean seriously, we know that not all Americans are stupid, just a proportion, like every nation.

As for the TG comment, whats that got to do with anything. Clarkson and co take the piss out of evryone, even us Brits. Just chill. drink

Derek Smith

49,689 posts

277 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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308mate said:
What people would say about the British if the nation was judged on the accuracy of what came out of Murray Walkers mouth?
What would that be? Trill makes budgies bounce with health? That was one of his.

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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homer3uk said:
Typical yanks. No sense of hummor. If this was an Australian race series article being ridiculed they would laugh along, or at least have a witty response. I'm mean seriously, we know that not all Americans are stupid, just a proportion, like every nation.

As for the TG comment, whats that got to do with anything. Clarkson and co take the piss out of evryone, even us Brits. Just chill. drink
I AM Australian.

It's just a really tiresome bandwagon cliche that I don't think was worth a mention in the first place and was presented in an ignorant and unfair manner to raise a laugh. Which it didn't get.

I don't think it's representative of the attitudes in the General Motorsport forum either.

You're right though, I should have just left it.