Advice - Ultima is in my shortlist for my next car.
Advice - Ultima is in my shortlist for my next car.
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stevieb

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5,253 posts

291 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Hi all,

After spending a long time over the weekend reading through the forums on the back on reading other build threads. The Ultima is firmly on my shortlist of cars.

I have looked at a number of different build diaries so far, and can see that the cost can vary from £30k (on a tight budget) upwards of £50k.

I am not in a fortunate position to buy all the parts on 1 go and store until they are needed, so I will be looking to buy them in staged Kit form.

Is buying in kit form over a period of 18 months going to give me any problems with parts compaability if they improve/change the design a little? Also with Kit car companies i am also a little worried of having a half complete car and the supplying comapny going bust. Ultima seem to be more stable than others so the risk of that happening should be minimal.

My last question, is it realistic for an ultima to built in this way over a 18-24 months..

Thanks

Steve




Stig

11,823 posts

308 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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stevieb said:
Hi all,

After spending a long time over the weekend reading through the forums on the back on reading other build threads. The Ultima is firmly on my shortlist of cars.

I have looked at a number of different build diaries so far, and can see that the cost can vary from £30k (on a tight budget) upwards of £50k.

I am not in a fortunate position to buy all the parts on 1 go and store until they are needed, so I will be looking to buy them in staged Kit form.

Is buying in kit form over a period of 18 months going to give me any problems with parts compaability if they improve/change the design a little? Also with Kit car companies i am also a little worried of having a half complete car and the supplying comapny going bust. Ultima seem to be more stable than others so the risk of that happening should be minimal.

My last question, is it realistic for an ultima to built in this way over a 18-24 months..

Thanks

Steve
Building the car over a period of time isn't uncommon. Plenty of builders have taken 5 years or more as funds/time permits. I wouldn't worry about parts being re-developed in this period either, there are no plans to dramatically change anything that I'm aware of (and the design hasn't changed fundamentally for many, many years now - if it ain't broke etc.). Ultima are a stable company and continue to do what they've always done. Thankfully they've never fallen into the trap of trying to expand beyond market demand which has proved to be a prudent approach IMHO.

The factory will be able to advise you on what stages to buy to get you going. What I will say though it that you're better off ticking as many boxes (options) as you can. No only will it make the car more rewarding to build, it will help the value when you come to sell it. The AP brake kit and Intrax dampers for example, whilst options, are really considered by most potential buyers to be 'must haves'.


All IMHO of course smile

The main thing is to build the car that you want. It's a fantastic experience and one I'd thoroughly recommend.

UltimaCH

3,181 posts

213 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Look around on the recent threads and posts, as some have taken or are taking years to finish their builds. I would not be too worried about Ultima going broke, but that is just my opinion. They have a great product and give excellent support. Go ahead and take a visit to the Factory and get a test (fright) drive with Ted or Richard smile

stevieb

Original Poster:

5,253 posts

291 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Thansk for the replies..

I have currently saved up for a 3rd Car (Toy) for myself, but have looked at the Westfield Great car, but is not for me. I have considered things like the Audi S4, and even buying another Impreza again witht he funds i have now. But I just want something a bit different, and althought here are some good cars out there i just cannot find one that gives me that sense of occasion everytime you drive it.




Stig

11,823 posts

308 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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stevieb said:
Thansk for the replies..

I have currently saved up for a 3rd Car (Toy) for myself, but have looked at the Westfield Great car, but is not for me. I have considered things like the Audi S4, and even buying another Impreza again witht he funds i have now. But I just want something a bit different, and althought here are some good cars out there i just cannot find one that gives me that sense of occasion everytime you drive it.
Seven style cars are great fun - but the Ultima is in a different league from both a performance and 'occasion' perspective yes

stevieb

Original Poster:

5,253 posts

291 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Stig said:
Seven style cars are great fun - but the Ultima is in a different league from both a performance and 'occasion' perspective yes
Thanks.

My shortlist of Kit Cars went from the Murtaya to the Westie and finaly the ultima.

The westie while quick was great to drive but I did not the nature of the rev the crap out of it all the time. I know the ethos is a small capacity high rev engine in a light car is a good mix. But is just not one for me.

Then i moved onto the Subaru Engined Murtaya. A lot quicker around the track compared to the Westie, easy to tune and cheap to run. But i had the sense that i have already been there and done that. I have owned a tuned Impreza before and they are a performance bargain, but i just want something v8 powered.

AndyandChrisGTR

188 posts

192 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Hi Steve,

As has been said already, get your self over to the factory for a test "fright"/ ride with Ted! This will make your mind up for you!!

As for the stages to get, Stig is definately right with what he's saying about certain options and it's also quite handy to have as many parts on hand as you can but not essential as many threads on here show. I'm sure the factory will be only to pleased to advise you on how/what order to do things in.

Hope you make your mind up soon and look forward to seeing what your decision is.

Chris


Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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There is a early stages part built in the classifieds which could make a very good start point.

Steve

dal2litrefrogeye

357 posts

201 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Hands up this is not a constructive answer !!! go for it you wont be disappointed ! occassion and big grins and more interest ( even from non car type people ) then any car you v had before all in one hit , yep go for it !

BogBeast

1,144 posts

287 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Stig said:
Building the car over a period of time isn't uncommon. Plenty of builders have taken 5 years or more as funds/time permits. I wouldn't worry about parts being re-developed in this period either, there are no plans to dramatically change anything that I'm aware of (and the design hasn't changed fundamentally for many, many years now - if it ain't broke etc.). Ultima are a stable company and continue to do what they've always done. Thankfully they've never fallen into the trap of trying to expand beyond market demand which has proved to be a prudent approach IMHO.

The factory will be able to advise you on what stages to buy to get you going. What I will say though it that you're better off ticking as many boxes (options) as you can. No only will it make the car more rewarding to build, it will help the value when you come to sell it. The AP brake kit and Intrax dampers for example, whilst options, are really considered by most potential buyers to be 'must haves'.


All IMHO of course smile

The main thing is to build the car that you want. It's a fantastic experience and one I'd thoroughly recommend.
Couldn't agree more.. When I built mine I didn't have all the finances required and so bought what I could when I could - left me plenty of time to go mental on the detailing...

Only downside is that I want to build another one now !

ezakimak

1,871 posts

260 months

Monday 21st February 2011
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Stig said:
Intrax dampers for example, whilst options, are really considered by most potential buyers to be 'must haves'.


All IMHO of course smile

The main thing is to build the car that you want. It's a fantastic experience and one I'd thoroughly recommend.
Stig, Are they still using Intrax ? They no longer appear on the price list.
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...


UltimaCH

3,181 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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ezakimak said:
Stig, Are they still using Intrax ? They no longer appear on the price list.
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
I believe if you look a bit further down the page of that link, under "chassis parts" you will have your answer:
Set of four top quality shockers fully adjustable for ride
height and bump complete with race quality road springs £1128.00

deadscoob

2,265 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Who makes these?

02PRUV

218 posts

185 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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ezakimak said:
Stig, Are they still using Intrax ? They no longer appear on the price list.
http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=gtrpr...
Not intrax anymore. They changed brands do to having a few Intrax having problems and coming back apparently. Can't remember the brand of the new ones it's probably listed on my invoice. I'd have to take a look at it tomorrow.