RE: AC Is Back With MkVI
RE: AC Is Back With MkVI
Tuesday 22nd February 2011

AC Is Back With MkVI

Geneva show debut for new AC model - but you might just recognise it...



AC, which celebrates its 110th birthday this year, is back at a major international motor show with this, the MkVI. (And yes, we know it still looks like an AC Cobra, but you wouldn't expect something totally brand-new, would you?)

Curiously, though, the MkVI is actually a German-built affair and uses a 430bhp GM V8. But fans of Blighty-built ACs need not worry: AC-badged cars are soon to be built in the UK, too.

As well as AC Germany, AC Cars is establishing a dedicated AC Heritage Centre at the top of the historic Brooklands test hill in Surrey. The UK-based Heritage Centre will be 'formally' opened later in the year, and AC says it will make an announcement 'in the near future' as to which cars it will produce in Brooklands.

Let's not forget our cousins across the Pond, either; Iconic Motors has adopted the AC brand for its ultra-high performance car, the Iconic AC Roadster, which delivers an impressive 825bhp and 680lb ft of torque, plus a top speed of 210mph and a 0-60mph time of less than three seconds.


AC is also keen to point out that these are not replicas or kit cars, but "hand-crafted recreations of the iconic AC cars, which built an identity recognised by genuine car enthusiasts the world over".

So AC is back - and, crucially, its cars are ready for the road. "The key to our future though is based on achievement, so when we announce a new model it will be available - as the AC MkVI is today - ready for sale," says AC Cars chairman, Alan Lubinsky. "For the first time in a decade we're able to provide customers with genuine, high quality cars from a range of proven production sources."

If you want to have a closer look at the MkVI, it will be on AC's stand at the Geneva show next week, alongside an example of the car that started the whole Cobra thing (though of course the new car is most emphatically not a Cobra...), an original AC Ace.

 
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Pixel Pusher

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10,324 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Always loved these cars. Always, and would have one at the drop of a hat. Somebody said on another thread that owners probably get asked, "real or copy?" everywhere they go. I don't see this one solving that issue but it's great to see these things still being made.

Big V8, proper plumbing; Yummy.

anonymous-user

70 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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I love these! cloud9

jellison

12,803 posts

293 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Presume by GM V8 they mean an LS3.

Might as well be a kitcar maker now, as real one have Fords, er and are Built in England (Surrey).

Can't see the point. So many crappy reps on the road, whuy would you want to be confused with possibly owning one.

Milks

186 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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cool, but will it actually be drivable?

Tim.C

342 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Err, considering the hoops that kit builders have to jump through, how is the vehicle pictured road legal? The steering wheel for example...

Riggers

1,859 posts

194 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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jellison said:
Presume by GM V8 they mean an LS3.
They weren't specific, but going by the power output I think you're right...

Harry Flashman

20,686 posts

258 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Beautiful, but far too pricey, when excellent replicas exist with engineering that is some cases is just as good, for far less cash.

Pat H

8,058 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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jellison said:
Presume by GM V8 they mean an LS3.

Might as well be a kitcar maker now, as real one have Fords, er and are Built in England (Surrey).

Can't see the point. So many crappy reps on the road, whuy would you want to be confused with possibly owning one.
I have to agree.

The Cobra has been completely devalued and debased by the kit car industry.

Nine out of ten "Cobras" that you see are kit cars. Some are so good that they are indistinguishable from the real thing. Some are hopeless Pinto engined lash ups.

But the assumption (and reality) is that if you see one it will be a kit car and not a real one.

I hate to say this, but Graham Nearn was absolutely right to sue everybody in sight to protect his rights to manufacture the Seven.

As a result, the Seven has retained its identity as the real thing, even though the current offerings have considerably less in common with a Lotus Seven than the Westfield that I owned in 1985.





Snoggledog

8,703 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Based on his (rumoured) last efforts with AC, this story has got as much chance of being true as the return of TVR. In short, I'll believe it when I see it.

jellison

12,803 posts

293 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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One word - Pointless.

Can't the owns of these Names just let these old shape die in peace, or come up with something NEW. (er no cos they could never compete - so just don't bother).

A Scotsman

1,001 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Now that's a real car!

Hendry

1,945 posts

298 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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jellison said:
Presume by GM V8 they mean an LS3.

Might as well be a kitcar maker now, as real one have Fords, er and are Built in England (Surrey).

Can't see the point. So many crappy reps on the road, whuy would you want to be confused with possibly owning one.
I regret to say I agree on the sadness of seeing "real" ACs made in Germany and the US and with GM sourced mills.

And Alan Lubinsky was also behind them being being in Malta as well I think.

The name AC has been wed around so much that it's hardly worth anything these days. As much as I'd like to see a "Heritage Centre" at Brooklands I am not sure it will repair all the stuff that's gone on since Brian Angliss sold out (and his stewardship wasn't without some clangers along the way either).

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

227 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Why the sniping at cobra replicas? Some of them are very well put together and more than completent cars in their own right.

Schermerhorn

4,350 posts

205 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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I want to see one of these with say, an AMG engine with a trick DSG type of gearbox.

A sort of Weismann rival with sophisication.

Pat H

8,058 posts

272 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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drivin_me_nuts said:
Why the sniping at cobra replicas? Some of them are very well put together and more than completent cars in their own right.
Because they are a cheap fake that devalue the real thing.

Garlick

40,601 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Pat H said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
Why the sniping at cobra replicas? Some of them are very well put together and more than completent cars in their own right.
Because they are a cheap fake that devalue the real thing.
I'd have one though (sorry)

dinkel

27,507 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Pat H said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
Why the sniping at cobra replicas? Some of them are very well put together and more than completent cars in their own right.
Because they are a cheap fake that devalue the real thing.
Eh? The real thing is only for the very happy few.

Kitcars range is from 25K for a used Dax to 100K for a top specced Superperformance car.

I can't see the point in this, marketwise. Wish 'em luck though!

Pixel Pusher

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10,324 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Tim.C said:
Err, considering the hoops that kit builders have to jump through, how is the vehicle pictured road legal? The steering wheel for example...
Saftey features such as Airbags are at the owners discretion.


jake15919

738 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Nice car, as are most of the top end recreations/kits. and I look forward to the heritage centre but something just doesn't feel right. AC are basically just sticking their name to a replica car and the heritage centre might well just turn into a showroom. Lots of ifs and maybes in that press release.

As for the US 'Iconic AC Roadster' what an dog of car. They have taken a great looking car and given it a right beating with the ugly stick. There's no way I'd want to do over 200mph in it either.

louiebaby

10,653 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd February 2011
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Garlick said:
Pat H said:
drivin_me_nuts said:
Why the sniping at cobra replicas? Some of them are very well put together and more than completent cars in their own right.
Because they are a cheap fake that devalue the real thing.
I'd have one though (sorry)
I'd love to have the real thing, be it a AC Cobra, Austin Healey or Jaguar XK140.

However, I think I'd be less scared to use a good replica, and as such it would get used more, and probably driven a bit harder too. (None of these are really about track days, but I would throw a replica down a
country lane harder than a real one.

I think any car like this is about how much you use it, and how it makes you feel. I rented a Morgan for the weekend when I got married. Throwing it down the country lanes it was brilliant, I loved it. That is the appeal of these cars, to me at least.