Cayenne v BMW 530
Discussion
OK, I was running down a 250km stretch of a foreign motorway yesterday, cruising at 200kmh (115mph), and easing off slightly on sharpish motorway bends......and sod me, this Porsche Turbo Cayenne came past like I stood still, and took the 'imminent tricky bend' flat out.
Are they really that good ? It was new(ish), must have been going 140-150mph, but what impressed me most, she took the sharp sweepig bend flat out.
That good ?
Are they really that good ? It was new(ish), must have been going 140-150mph, but what impressed me most, she took the sharp sweepig bend flat out.
That good ?
Me and some friends did a trip in a newish Cayenne Turbo recently; in a straight line it was rapid, one of the fastest cars i've been in, faster in a straight line than a friend's WRX who was also on the trip. We didn't feel that safe taking corners at speed though, as there is still a reasonable amount of roll.
Mate of mine had a Turbo S.
Jaysus it was quick.
Never ending coil pack issues and sub 20 MPG on a good day made him sell it.
He still misses that beast and his missus is trying to tempt him into a diesel version as she loved the look and feel of the car.
I really liked it and for such a tall heavy vehicle its handling was exceptional.
Jaysus it was quick.
Never ending coil pack issues and sub 20 MPG on a good day made him sell it.
He still misses that beast and his missus is trying to tempt him into a diesel version as she loved the look and feel of the car.
I really liked it and for such a tall heavy vehicle its handling was exceptional.
V8A*ndy said:
He still misses that beast and his missus is trying to tempt him into a diesel version as she loved the look and feel of the car.
Can't help thinking that the diesel version will probably lose that certain something that made the Turbo S feel special.You get nothing for nothing.
Hi
With a combination of excellent suspension components, a lowered ride height, excellent performing tyres even in standard form, the Cayenne Turbo from an engineering perspective, can acheive this kind of confidence in driving dynamics. I'd hazard a guess the driver was experienced with his vehicle and components and had a feel of their combined capabilities. This kind of confidence usually takes time to learn on a road car. there's a stretch of road near to me, which is perhaps 2 miles long, a mixture of straights, twisties with some negative camber on the road surface which I've used over the last 22 years of driving.I know it very well and use it to gradually learn the capabilities of the cars I've bought and then re-used for when I modify to see how much extra I've gained. It's a pleasure to find it when it's empty and I blast through it. Perhaps it was the same for this Cayenne driver!
with good upgrades to your E39, you'll be pleasantly surprised at just how quick and responsive the car actually is given it's relatively large size. Of course, had you been 'up to that level' at the point of seeing the Cayenne, althouh you wouldn't be quite as fast, I'd say you could've certainly have surprised the driver in keeping up at a similar long sweeping bend albeit a little slower.
just last night I was driving back from a BMW gathering and through the quieter roads around ashford middlesex through to heathrow and then slough at 130 am, excellent fun and enjoyment and I love how my Touring feels along those kinds of roads and riding the wave of torque
Cheers, Dennis!
With a combination of excellent suspension components, a lowered ride height, excellent performing tyres even in standard form, the Cayenne Turbo from an engineering perspective, can acheive this kind of confidence in driving dynamics. I'd hazard a guess the driver was experienced with his vehicle and components and had a feel of their combined capabilities. This kind of confidence usually takes time to learn on a road car. there's a stretch of road near to me, which is perhaps 2 miles long, a mixture of straights, twisties with some negative camber on the road surface which I've used over the last 22 years of driving.I know it very well and use it to gradually learn the capabilities of the cars I've bought and then re-used for when I modify to see how much extra I've gained. It's a pleasure to find it when it's empty and I blast through it. Perhaps it was the same for this Cayenne driver!
with good upgrades to your E39, you'll be pleasantly surprised at just how quick and responsive the car actually is given it's relatively large size. Of course, had you been 'up to that level' at the point of seeing the Cayenne, althouh you wouldn't be quite as fast, I'd say you could've certainly have surprised the driver in keeping up at a similar long sweeping bend albeit a little slower.
just last night I was driving back from a BMW gathering and through the quieter roads around ashford middlesex through to heathrow and then slough at 130 am, excellent fun and enjoyment and I love how my Touring feels along those kinds of roads and riding the wave of torque
Cheers, Dennis!
Good reply Dennis.
Yes, I was proud of the 530d performance and handling, she is 2002 'vintage', has had a hard 180k kms of life, yest still puts a smile on my face. And before anyone asks, I also run a 330 cab, and in last 3 years owned plethora of E30s, including a wonderful E30 M3 with ACS handling kit.
But....my God, when that Cayenne came thru. I was probably still running 110+ mph, easing off from crusing c120mph. For sure driver must have known the road, as it was a large sweeping right-2-left bend, and you are blind (Europe)...and he was gunning it.
Nonetheless, I covered my "Carpark-2-home" (305km) in 2h 5mins.....and for an old diesel guzzler, stepped out the car with a grin and loads of dead flies up the windscreen. Tank was full before I had left home, and when she pulled up, there was 620km driven and 160km to empty - not bad for EUR 75 of fuel! I reckon the Cayenne would need to refuel on the 610km round trip....then I'd have him ;-)
Big Ant
Yes, I was proud of the 530d performance and handling, she is 2002 'vintage', has had a hard 180k kms of life, yest still puts a smile on my face. And before anyone asks, I also run a 330 cab, and in last 3 years owned plethora of E30s, including a wonderful E30 M3 with ACS handling kit.
But....my God, when that Cayenne came thru. I was probably still running 110+ mph, easing off from crusing c120mph. For sure driver must have known the road, as it was a large sweeping right-2-left bend, and you are blind (Europe)...and he was gunning it.
Nonetheless, I covered my "Carpark-2-home" (305km) in 2h 5mins.....and for an old diesel guzzler, stepped out the car with a grin and loads of dead flies up the windscreen. Tank was full before I had left home, and when she pulled up, there was 620km driven and 160km to empty - not bad for EUR 75 of fuel! I reckon the Cayenne would need to refuel on the 610km round trip....then I'd have him ;-)
Big Ant
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