GAP Insurance good idea?
GAP Insurance good idea?
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s2ooz

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3,005 posts

301 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Sorry did a search, but seacrh not working, so sorry if this has been discussed..

I have just bought a £24k car, with 7k deposit. The dealer tried to punt his GAP insurance, which looked interesting, so I declined and had a look on line for a better deal. But overall - do poeple here thing its a con/good idea? I tend to shy away from insurance as a money for old rope attitude, but this seems to make sense..

4 years return to invoice insurance. - ie doesnt matter what the car is worth in 3y 11m time - I get the inurance payout+ a cheque to make it back up to £24k on a total write off or theft.

Opinions?

Kiltox

14,797 posts

175 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Also interested in this - my insurer does not offer "new car replacement" in the first year.

Invoice price £5550, list price £7370, balance to finance £4450.

Been offered either RTI (Return to Invoice) for £71 or VRI (Vehicle Replacement Insurance) for £131.

edo

16,699 posts

282 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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I too dont normally go for this sort of thing, but back to invoice gap can be pretty useful. Just dont get more than you need.

We got it on a used BMW recently and £10k worth of gap insurance for 3 years we got down to £138 quid (not bad considering the finance chap started at a scarcely believable £399!!).

rattyuk2000

97 posts

186 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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I was offered RTI GAP insurance recently by a Lexus main dealer on a £21K nearly-new car for the princely sum of £599.

When I pointed out that I could buy £12K5 cover for a 3 year term for £125 online the conversation ended.

In principle I think GAP can be a good product, but shop around and make sure you don't buy more cover than you can claim for.


AcidReflux

3,209 posts

271 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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We took out gap insurance on a new car last July. I spoke to several friends in the trade beforehand and they all said it's worth the relatively low premium, especially if there's finance on the car. It's worth shopping around though - the dealer's price is unlikely to be the best you could find. Their first price to us was £400 but it didn't take much negotiating to bring it down to £300 with interest-free payments spread over a year. (This is for a £31k car.)

If our new car got written off tomorrow eek the regular insurer would offer us many £k less than we paid for it 7 months ago and we'd have to go and find a replacement with a) the same low mileage, in b) the same perfect condition with c) at least the same options. Gap insurance means you just walk back into the dealer and they give you another brand new one - even when the car is a few years old.

Check on your regular insurance policy whether you're covered new-for-old. Our Audi insurance is new-for-old for the first year, so we got gap insurance delayed for a year to take us through until the car is 4 years old.

Our dealer told us that apparently people have been known to stuff a car into a tree just before the gap insurance expires...

s2ooz

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301 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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I have found 4 years RTI with a limit of £17500 for £206 which sounds like a fair deal compared to other quotes listed.

qube_TA

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262 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Chap I work with bought a Lexus for £16K, had it just over a year when it was pinched (he'd forgotten to lock his front door and someone walked in and took his key).

Insurance would only give him £10K for the car but as he had GAP then he got the extra £6K from them, in this instance it came in handy.

His house insurance didn't pay though, he lost a lot of toys!


s2ooz

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301 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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AcidReflux said:
Our dealer told us that apparently people have been known to stuff a car into a tree just before the gap insurance expires...
Im not suprised, it seems such a tempting payment to walk away from - fraudulent of course, but still.

Kiltox

14,797 posts

175 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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s2ooz - what is the list price of the car (are you buying brand new?)

In my case described earlier I think VRI would be better than RTI because I'm getting a considerable discount off list.

s2ooz

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Monday 28th February 2011
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Kiltox said:
s2ooz - what is the list price of the car (are you buying brand new?)

In my case described earlier I think VRI would be better than RTI because I'm getting a considerable discount off list.
Its a 6 month old car which lists at 27k - I paid £24, but I reckon its worth less than that - I did by from a dealer, who I assume value it at less than I paid ( it was their own show car from new)

I see what your saying and I think you have concerns if you think list prices will rise, as they add new items, but I prefer to take a little risk:
Im not intending to write it off or get it stolen, so why pay more for something I wont claim for.
Im not expecting the tpye of car to go up - they tend to have been this price for 5 years laready, any more and they wouldnt compete against other marquees..

I would assume the gap people could say they could buy a 6 month old for 5k less than me, so they actually SAVE money.

Kiltox

14,797 posts

175 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Ah right, VRI is only for new cars anyway, so RTI is the way to go for you yes

I'm still unable to decide - twice the price for the better cover but the chances of me being able to replace my car with a new one if it were written off with RTI cover are slim.

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

177 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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I was about to say VRI is different to GAP. GAP insurance will only pay out the difference in vehicle value to amount owed.

This is how it was explained to me at Audi on Saturday.

s2ooz

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301 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Kiltox said:
Ah right, VRI is only for new cars anyway
ala.co.uk:

Vehicle Replacement Insurance is available for vehicles that are financed, on a personal loan, or owned outright. Vehicle Replacement Insurance is available to private individuals and companies. The cars can be up to 5 years old and cover is available for up to 4 years from the date that you took delivery of the vehicle.

Kiltox

14,797 posts

175 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Oh right...... hmmm

I still don't understand this stuff biglaugh

Need to get it sorted though, take delivery of my new car on Wed.

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

177 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Kiltox said:
Oh right...... hmmm

I still don't understand this stuff biglaugh

Need to get it sorted though, take delivery of my new car on Wed.
The way it was explained to me...

VRI - Vehicle Replacement Insurance.

Car bought for £20k. 2 years in, you write it off. Cars worth £10k, your insurers give you £10k and the VRI insurers give you another £10k to put you back in the same position you was in when you bought the car.


GAP Insurance

Car bought for £20k, 6 months into it car gets written off, worth £15k but still have £20k owing on finance. £15k from insurers, £5k from GAP insurers to pay off the owning finance but you then have to start again ie stump un deposit for new car.

otolith

62,377 posts

221 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Given the tiny sum insured, compared to the multi-million pound liability your road insurance policy covers, this always looks like money for old rope to me. No risk pricing, either, so you are paying the same premium as a 19 year old promising footballer.

Kiltox

14,797 posts

175 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Ah right....

I think VRI is the way to go for me because the cost of replacing my new car could possibly be more than I'd have since the new model is due in a few months and it could be a while before they discount it as crazily as the current model.


s2ooz

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301 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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SteveS Cup said:
GAP Insurance

Car bought for £20k, 6 months into it car gets written off, worth £15k but still have £20k owing on finance. £15k from insurers, £5k from GAP insurers to pay off the owning finance but you then have to start again ie stump un deposit for new car.
not quite, I guess it varies.. you wont still owe £20k, as you will have made 6 months worth of payments, so GAP pays less that - ie to CLEAR the finance.

chances is are you owe as much as its worth, so gap may not need to pay out much at all, and normal car insurance is plenty. this is where I stumbled on GAP, and have gone INVOICE insurance - I get the diff to the ORIGINAL invoice amount, no link to my finance agreement.

eltax91

10,382 posts

223 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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Ring them back about 7- 7:30pm today. It's end of month and they will drop their price if short of target. My mate bought a £28k Supercharged Elise 3 days from the end of a quarter last year. They started off at £400. We left it.

End of quarter came (we are a sales company so work late). About 8pm the phone rings, they are doing anything to get numbers on the board, so they offered it at £127. He ripped their hand off.

Burnham

3,668 posts

276 months

Monday 28th February 2011
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s2ooz said:
not quite, I guess it varies.. you wont still owe £20k, as you will have made 6 months worth of payments, so GAP pays less that - ie to CLEAR the finance.

chances is are you owe as much as its worth, so gap may not need to pay out much at all, and normal car insurance is plenty. this is where I stumbled on GAP, and have gone INVOICE insurance - I get the diff to the ORIGINAL invoice amount, no link to my finance agreement.
What if there is no finance? I guess its straight to Invoice insurance.