O/T: Legal Help Required Aprops Conservation Areas
Discussion
Lads and lasses,
I have the pleasure of living in such an area, and until precisely 7am yesterday morning, my digital television needs were met by ITV Digital. Alas, an investment of which I would have been proud has led to their untimely demise.
This is not good, as I spent most of last night "channel hopping" around the free channels that are still being broadcast. My sanity at present is being preserved by E4, otherwise I would have gone quite mad.
It is my belief that because our property is in such an area, it precludes us from lining Mr Murdoch's pockets as we are not allowed to erect dishes to the outside of the house.
Cable will arrive in about 2070, by my reckoning, about the same time that our local BT exchange is upgraded to broadband ("Sorry, but there is no identified demand for such a service in your area" "Yes there is ! Me !!
). Satellite broadband is a no-no as it requires a dish 
So what can I do ? Is there a way round it ? Am I forced to watch all this free crap until some tit buys up the DTT licence recently vacated ?
I have the pleasure of living in such an area, and until precisely 7am yesterday morning, my digital television needs were met by ITV Digital. Alas, an investment of which I would have been proud has led to their untimely demise.
This is not good, as I spent most of last night "channel hopping" around the free channels that are still being broadcast. My sanity at present is being preserved by E4, otherwise I would have gone quite mad.
It is my belief that because our property is in such an area, it precludes us from lining Mr Murdoch's pockets as we are not allowed to erect dishes to the outside of the house.
Cable will arrive in about 2070, by my reckoning, about the same time that our local BT exchange is upgraded to broadband ("Sorry, but there is no identified demand for such a service in your area" "Yes there is ! Me !!
). Satellite broadband is a no-no as it requires a dish So what can I do ? Is there a way round it ? Am I forced to watch all this free crap until some tit buys up the DTT licence recently vacated ?
.. You could possibly bung a satellite dish hidden behind a fence - as long as there's a path to the satellite it doesn't neccesarily need to be high up? Or is there a tall tree in your garden you could bung it on?
Not sure how feasible these ideas are, but just chucking them out as you appear to be a bit F*cked?
Not sure how feasible these ideas are, but just chucking them out as you appear to be a bit F*cked?
You can actually often get a signal using a loft dish these are normally quite large as they collect more signal to focus into the bit in the middle (nice techie term) I used to live in a similar conservation area and a neighbour had one in his loft which seemed to work ok but I think cost him several hundred quid for the dish alone
this may be an unpopular thought, but how about skipping the dish? The summer will be much beter seen from the driving seat of your Porsche, and you can worry about the TV in the autumn....
Most major sporting fixtures are shown in the pubs, which are much better places to watch big games anyway
I'll just get my tin hat and find a quiet place to hide.
R
PS I live in a fiercely enforced conservation area, and my neighbour has put up a dish which no-one seems to have complained about. It's one of those small black mesh-type ones which are very discreet. It all seems to be aout positioning.
>> Edited by yum on Thursday 2nd May 11:27
Most major sporting fixtures are shown in the pubs, which are much better places to watch big games anyway
I'll just get my tin hat and find a quiet place to hide.
R
PS I live in a fiercely enforced conservation area, and my neighbour has put up a dish which no-one seems to have complained about. It's one of those small black mesh-type ones which are very discreet. It all seems to be aout positioning.
>> Edited by yum on Thursday 2nd May 11:27
How about some sort of post in your back garden below fence height and bolting the dish to that - as mentioned earlier? Skylight in the roof sounds *expensive*.
These modern dishes (the digital ones) really are quite small - it depends on whether the neighbours are going to complain miserably about it or not...and, of course, whether you think it looks sh**e on the outside of your beautiful house etc etc
My dish is black. I wonder if you can get a clear(ish) one or suitably brick coloured...
>> Edited by Don on Thursday 2nd May 11:42
These modern dishes (the digital ones) really are quite small - it depends on whether the neighbours are going to complain miserably about it or not...and, of course, whether you think it looks sh**e on the outside of your beautiful house etc etc
My dish is black. I wonder if you can get a clear(ish) one or suitably brick coloured...
>> Edited by Don on Thursday 2nd May 11:42
Problem is that the satellite which delivers Sky Digital is very low in the sky - you practically point at the horizon, not up into the sky, so putting it significantly below an obstruction like a fence might not yield a result..
To settle that argument, get a bloke with a dish and a signal meter to come and do a quick survey - see what he comes up with..
Failing that, have you considered moving to a council estate? Coverage always seems to be just perfect in these areas
To settle that argument, get a bloke with a dish and a signal meter to come and do a quick survey - see what he comes up with..
Failing that, have you considered moving to a council estate? Coverage always seems to be just perfect in these areas
After careful deliberation (just made a cup of tea
) I have found the solution attach a satellite dish to a blimp, and tether it pointing towards the satellite, about 50m above your back garden. This should give you great signal without breaking the ordiance about no satellite dishes
On second thoughts, perhaps I put toilet duck in my tea instead of milk
) I have found the solution attach a satellite dish to a blimp, and tether it pointing towards the satellite, about 50m above your back garden. This should give you great signal without breaking the ordiance about no satellite dishes On second thoughts, perhaps I put toilet duck in my tea instead of milk
Thanks chaps. Further info:
1) We live in a terraced townhouse. We DO have a skylight on the second floor though. Bit small though, but could be a go-er.
2) Council estate is out of the question (but thanks for the contribution though CarZee)
3) AFAIK, I simply CANNOT erect a dish on the outside of the house, no matter how small or innocuous it is. It will only take one whinging bastard to clock it, grass me to the Council, then I'm back to square one.
4) Can you really get a dish in your loft to pick up a satellite ? My loft doesn't have skylights or anything like that, so it would be beaming through slate. Mel, if you know anything more about this, can you elaborate ?
5) Broadband - yes, major downer this, although the price one pays for living out in the sticks with a bunch of farmers, boaters etc. I'll keep pestering BT.
Thanks all. The loft dish sounds the best bet at present as I don't use the loft, nor do I intend to convert it to another couple of rooms (bad enough climbing 2 flights of stairs when you've had a few sherberts)
>> Edited by GregE240 on Thursday 2nd May 12:38
1) We live in a terraced townhouse. We DO have a skylight on the second floor though. Bit small though, but could be a go-er.
2) Council estate is out of the question (but thanks for the contribution though CarZee)
3) AFAIK, I simply CANNOT erect a dish on the outside of the house, no matter how small or innocuous it is. It will only take one whinging bastard to clock it, grass me to the Council, then I'm back to square one.
4) Can you really get a dish in your loft to pick up a satellite ? My loft doesn't have skylights or anything like that, so it would be beaming through slate. Mel, if you know anything more about this, can you elaborate ?
5) Broadband - yes, major downer this, although the price one pays for living out in the sticks with a bunch of farmers, boaters etc. I'll keep pestering BT.
Thanks all. The loft dish sounds the best bet at present as I don't use the loft, nor do I intend to convert it to another couple of rooms (bad enough climbing 2 flights of stairs when you've had a few sherberts)
>> Edited by GregE240 on Thursday 2nd May 12:38
I'm absolutely certain you can put a conventional aerial in the attic cos that's what I've done and it works fine.
I'm fairly sure that a satellite dish also works in the attic. You might need a bigger than standard - ie more sensitive - dish though .
John.
>> Edited by JohnLow on Thursday 2nd May 12:45
I'm fairly sure that a satellite dish also works in the attic. You might need a bigger than standard - ie more sensitive - dish though .
John.
>> Edited by JohnLow on Thursday 2nd May 12:45
Inmarsat (marine satcom) has the SES (ship earth station) dish mounted in a GRP raydome. It would appear therefore that GRP is relatively transparent to these radio frequencies. The answer seems to be to take moulds off your existing roof slates/tiles, produce a thin fibreglass copy of your roof tiles (in the same colour) and replaced an area of about 1 m by 1 m with the new radio transparent panel, position the satellite dish so it points through the GRP panel and you now have satellite TV...
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Love your thinking Clive !!
Greg, my last house was exactly the same, terrace in conservation area. One guy put a dish on the side of his chimney I think, no one said anything against it. Two months later the road looked like it had been hit by a sat dish version of measles and they're all still there two years later. Depends really on how anal your neighbours/council are but personally I'd put one up anyway & see what happens, got to be cheaper than rebuilding half your roof hey Clive ....!
Greg, my last house was exactly the same, terrace in conservation area. One guy put a dish on the side of his chimney I think, no one said anything against it. Two months later the road looked like it had been hit by a sat dish version of measles and they're all still there two years later. Depends really on how anal your neighbours/council are but personally I'd put one up anyway & see what happens, got to be cheaper than rebuilding half your roof hey Clive ....!
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