Constant speed warning, on all roads which device???

[Tampon]

I have tried asking on the gassing station but didn;t really get a definative answer.

I am the lucky owner of 9 points and need to be inch perfect for the next 13 months so what I would like is a system that alerted me when ever I went over the speed limit, any where, not just on the roads with cameras.

Now looking into this it seems that the only road angel that does this is the Road angel Vantage, I have emailed pogo to ask if any of their systems have it as some say "speed limit advisory" and some say "over speed warning" but they don't say if that is for all roads or just ones with cameras on it.

I figure if I only ever drive at the speed limit or under, things like camera detection, laser detection etc won;t matter.

Is there a system that any of you guys know that definitely does this ?

[Spitfire2]

Copilot on iPhone has option to nag you when over any speed limit.

Pretty sure Tom Tom does too.

Think you want to look at satnav for this function rather than the 'detector' Market.

[Tampon]

Spitfire2 said:

Copilot on iPhone has option to nag you when over any speed limit.

Pretty sure Tom Tom does too.

Think you want to look at satnav for this function rather than the 'detector' Market.

Sat navs don;t seem to do this ( would love to know if they do ) they seem to have data about limits on roads with cameras on them a some point but you standard back street or stretch of NSL road they don't.

[Slade Alive]

Garmin Nuvi 1310T displays speed limit of road it's on. Bleeps and glows if speed limit exceeded.

[Spitfire2]

Tampon said:

Sat navs don;t seem to do this ( would love to know if they do ) they seem to have data about limits on roads with cameras on them a some point but you standard back street or stretch of NSL road they don't.

They do.

But do you really need a machine to nag you on a standard back street?

[Manks]

Constant speed warning, on all roads which device???

Speedometer?

[Tampon]

Manks said:

Constant speed warning, on all roads which device???

Speedometer?

Here we go again, yes yes, but I don;t think sticking to the speed limit by constantly looking at the speedo as I plow into a child whilst being terrified I will lose my license is the way forward, I was thinking of something that would allow me the peace of mind to look up occasionally whilst giving me a noise if I stray but 1mph over.

You know, belt and braces...........

[Manks]

Tampon said:

Manks said:

Constant speed warning, on all roads which device???

Speedometer?

Here we go again, yes yes, but I don;t think sticking to the speed limit by constantly looking at the speedo as I plow into a child whilst being terrified I will lose my license is the way forward, I was thinking of something that would allow me the peace of mind to look up occasionally whilst giving me a noise if I stray but 1mph over.

You know, belt and braces...........

I have little confidence in belt and braces as a solution, unless of course you can arrange a device that twangs your braces onto your nipples if you exceed the speed limit. That, I think, would probably condition you not to speed quite efficiently. Though it must be said that both belt and braces in combination are not what the stylish gentleman is wearing this season.

Whilst I was obviously being flippant with my initial response, it seems to me that the following is the situation:

Up until about fifteen years ago it was quite possible to travel around the UK's road network at high speeds with little risk of causing a major accident or being caught by the thin blue line. Roads were much less busy, speed cameras were far fewer and providing one's high-speed driving was done “appropriately” nothing much would come of it.

Today, however, things are somewhat different. The roads have become hugely busier (and in worse condition) and at the same time the government's determination to slow people down / catch and fine people (delete according to your personal view) has increased dramatically. It is no longer the case that persistently exceeding of the speed limit will go unpunished. Where once upon a time you'd been a bit unlucky or careless if caught speeding, today it is almost a given that if you speed regularly you will accumulate points, fines and bans.

So, what is the solution? Not to speed? Well obviously that is one solution. However, another might be to use your speedo to learn how fast 30,40,40,60 and 70 mph feels and routinely drive to the speed limit pertaining to the road you are driving. Then, if you want to speed, find a section of road where you are confident you won't hurt anyone or be caught by the authorities and go for it.

Glancing occasionally at the speedo is not likely to send you ploughing into a bus queue, by the way, that is a red herring.

The problem with electronic aids is that quite apart from being bleeding irritating, they are not always effective when in use and completely ineffective when not in use. Or when you are driving another car, of course, and I speak from personal experience on the latter point.

None of this is meant as a holier than thou lecture, by the way. I am someone who is often hugely frustrated by speed limits and their enforcement and who has in the past lost his licence more than once due to speeding. But I have come round to the way of thinking that speed limit enforcement is not going to go away, so it is better just to drive within the limit as a default rather than trying to exceed the limit and not be caught. There are ways of utilising speed without continuously putting one's licence at risk.

So, as I said in answer to your original question, the speedometer.

[Tampon]

Manks said:

I have little confidence in belt and braces as a solution, unless of course you can arrange a device that twangs your braces onto your nipples if you exceed the speed limit. That, I think, would probably condition you not to speed quite efficiently. Though it must be said that both belt and braces in combination are not what the stylish gentleman is wearing this season.

Whilst I was obviously being flippant with my initial response, it seems to me that the following is the situation:

Up until about fifteen years ago it was quite possible to travel around the UK's road network at high speeds with little risk of causing a major accident or being caught by the thin blue line. Roads were much less busy, speed cameras were far fewer and providing one's high-speed driving was done “appropriately” nothing much would come of it.

Today, however, things are somewhat different. The roads have become hugely busier (and in worse condition) and at the same time the government's determination to slow people down / catch and fine people (delete according to your personal view) has increased dramatically. It is no longer the case that persistently exceeding of the speed limit will go unpunished. Where once upon a time you'd been a bit unlucky or careless if caught speeding, today it is almost a given that if you speed regularly you will accumulate points, fines and bans.

So, what is the solution? Not to speed? Well obviously that is one solution. However, another might be to use your speedo to learn how fast 30,40,40,60 and 70 mph feels and routinely drive to the speed limit pertaining to the road you are driving. Then, if you want to speed, find a section of road where you are confident you won't hurt anyone or be caught by the authorities and go for it.

Glancing occasionally at the speedo is not likely to send you ploughing into a bus queue, by the way, that is a red herring.

The problem with electronic aids is that quite apart from being bleeding irritating, they are not always effective when in use and completely ineffective when not in use. Or when you are driving another car, of course, and I speak from personal experience on the latter point.

None of this is meant as a holier than thou lecture, by the way. I am someone who is often hugely frustrated by speed limits and their enforcement and who has in the past lost his licence more than once due to speeding. But I have come round to the way of thinking that speed limit enforcement is not going to go away, so it is better just to drive within the limit as a default rather than trying to exceed the limit and not be caught. There are ways of utilising speed without continuously putting one's licence at risk.

So, as I said in answer to your original question, the speedometer.

No buddy not proclaiming you to be the second coming, I have just got pinged twice in 2 years, one of which I lost in court and got slapped with a extra 3 points which makes thing precarious. I have had a clean license for nearly 12 years now, and ride sportsbikes, scooter etc, never got points for them ( bikes are now not being ridden although scooters are ).

I have received both sets of points for doing less than 40mph, in a omega estate that took a age to do anything and now in the smallest engined vectra, first one was in the country with a row of 5 house on one side and fields on the other, the second 300 metres before a nsl sign on a road that is nearly 2 miles long and dead straight. Both my fault, but easy roads to creep up n speed on.

Generally drive with the needle around the 30 ( needle nearer 30 than 40 ) but I have started cruise on longer roads in 5th due to the price of petrol and it is dead easy to look down, your doing 32 on the speedo, fine, have a slight incline in the road, look down few hundred metres and your doing 37 ( that what I got stung for this last time, 38mph), now if I had 6 points on the license it would be fine and I would just lift off a touch and carry on driving not that worried about police but right now I can;t allow that to happen, so whilst I am checking my speed more often, double checking road signs, staying in a lower gear I would like a second warning for the speed to help me.

Please don;t think I am going to "rely" on a electronic gizmo to save my license, plug in and drive willy nilly, just as a aid along with better driving practice.

p.s. it isn;t a red herring about looking at the speedo, day after I was so terrified of going over whilst driving, I was looking constantly, I basically went through a questionable orange/red light ! That would have been choice seeing a large man crying/begging/explaining the situation to a police officer !

Hard to imagine driving knowing that one tiny slip, mobile rings whilst in traffic, through traffic light that is changing, one tyre that is below the minimum, tax disk has blown out of the window ( happened before ), 35mph, blowing exhaust, broken number plate, dirty number plate, headlight out, brake light out, one slight lapse and a quick lane change in sight of a copper, one undertake, variable speed cameras etc all could land me in the next year or so with a 6 month ban. Easy to sit there like I did before thinking " it is ok, worst case 3 points", or worst of all not think about it as there is hardly any chance of getting caught, now it is all I think about.

Only takes one mistake, once, in 400 plus journeys to come and it is gone, it is my own fault and I am not blaming anyone else, saying I was a victim, I am just looking for something to aid me, little as it may, even for the times it is remembered to be turned on, not for peace of mind but to help me to NEVER go over the speed limit, not even 71 on a motorway, not easy to do but I have to do everything I can not to.

[Slade Alive]

Manks said:

None of this is meant as a holier than thou lecture, by the way. I am someone who is often hugely frustrated by speed limits and their enforcement and who has in the past lost his licence more than once due to speeding. But I have come round to the way of thinking that speed limit enforcement is not going to go away, so it is better just to drive within the limit as a default rather than trying to exceed the limit and not be caught. There are ways of utilising speed without continuously putting one's licence at risk.

So, as I said in answer to your original question, the speedometer.

Puleeeeze. Get over yourself. As drivers we do what we do when we do. Default my arse.

[Funk]

I would be concerned that using such a device might not be terribly accurate. I know there are periods where limits have changed on a road, and my TomTom still thinks it's the higher limit. There is a degree of 'lag' and I would be hesitant to trust that it knows the current and correct speed limit for any given stretch of road.

I really would say you're best off driving much, much slower than you normally would, rather than risking being 'on the limit'. Sucks, but I understand why you're trying to take as many precautions as you can to protect your licence.

Unfortunately I think it really is just a case of being ultra-observant and keeping a close eye on your speed.

[Robert Burns]

The satnav is the thing you don't need. You as a driver should know the speed limit of roads. When to brake.take the foot off the accelerator. A 30 means 30 at 9 points. Not 32 or 33.

[Tampon]

Robert Burns said:

The satnav is the thing you don't need. You as a driver should know the speed limit of roads. When to brake.take the foot off the accelerator. A 30 means 30 at 9 points. Not 32 or 33.

I am not worried about not knowing the limit but making sure I don't do 1mph over without constant checking, I want to do 30mph but I don't think people realise how hard it is not to go over at all, not once, in one journey let alone over a year, I am not talking about 45 in a 30 but 33 in a 30.

Try it, takes a lot of check of the speedo.

[Funk]

Tampon said:

I am not worried about not knowing the limit but making sure I don't do 1mph over without constant checking, I want to do 30mph but I don't think people realise how hard it is not to go over at all, not once, in one journey let alone over a year, I am not talking about 45 in a 30 but 33 in a 30.

Try it, takes a lot of check of the speedo.

I would rely more on that than a 'warning' system..

Sorry fella, I think you're just going to have to aim for 5mph under the limit just to be safe. What about some kind of app on your phone that shows your speed in large numbers nearer your line of sight? I know on the HTC Desire there are some great apps.

[Tampon]

Funk said:

I would rely more on that than a 'warning' system..

Sorry fella, I think you're just going to have to aim for 5mph under the limit just to be safe. What about some kind of app on your phone that shows your speed in large numbers nearer your line of sight? I know on the HTC Desire there are some great apps.

Yeah thats a idea, not looking forward to that though, 25mph on the dual carridgeways round me ( loads are 30 ), expect a flood of threads about some tosser, not even a old fella driving down a empty dual carridgeway at 25mph, followed quickly by the " britains gone to the dogs" quotes

[Funk]

Tampon said:

Funk said:

I would rely more on that than a 'warning' system..

Sorry fella, I think you're just going to have to aim for 5mph under the limit just to be safe. What about some kind of app on your phone that shows your speed in large numbers nearer your line of sight? I know on the HTC Desire there are some great apps.

Yeah thats a idea, not looking forward to that though, 25mph on the dual carridgeways round me ( loads are 30 ), expect a flood of threads about some tosser, not even a old fella driving down a empty dual carridgeway at 25mph, followed quickly by the " britains gone to the dogs" quotes

I would get a sticker made up for the back:

"I'm on 9 points, so fk off."

[Tampon]

Funk said:

I would get a sticker made up for the back:

"I'm on 9 points, so fk off."

That is a cracking idea!

[Funk]

Tampon said:

Funk said:

I would get a sticker made up for the back:

"I'm on 9 points, so fk off."

That is a cracking idea!

Genuinely, if I saw that, I would sympathise and cut you a lot of slack for driving so slowly.

[skodamanpat]

Tomtom does have a speed warning but only on roads it knows and then like all these devices it can be way out of date showing a road as a 60/70 mph but it as actually been re-designated a 30/40/50. Not worth relying on imo

[Robert Burns]

Tampon said:

I am not worried about not knowing the limit but making sure I don't do 1mph over without constant checking, I want to do 30mph but I don't think people realise how hard it is not to go over at all, not once, in one journey let alone over a year, I am not talking about 45 in a 30 but 33 in a 30.

Try it, takes a lot of check of the speedo.

Im sorry but thats the pee pee. If you drive at 30 and drive at a fair distance behind the driver in front. Then you should be able to check your speedo. How long you been driving. You should know the feel of driving at 30, 40 or 50. If a learner can check his/her speed and do a rear mirror check around every 7 seconds then you should be fine. Don't be driving up someones backside.