Trackday tyres..
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Yazza54

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20,277 posts

207 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I'll be needing a new set of tyres for the fury soon and was just wondering if there are any others I should be considering other than replacing them with another set of A048s.

How do 888s compare? I've noticed they're a tad cheaper. Seen some A021s also, what about them?

Crazy Eddie

253 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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My 2p would be the AO48's again, raced on them for 3 years and great in all conditions. When I had R888's on my track day Westie instead I was equally impressed in the dry but not so much in the wet or cold, can't remember which compound they were though.
Just buy second hand ones all the time for cheap if only using on track though biggrin

Porkie

2,378 posts

267 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Crazy Eddie said:
My 2p would be the AO48's again, raced on them for 3 years and great in all conditions. When I had R888's on my track day Westie instead I was equally impressed in the dry but not so much in the wet or cold, can't remember which compound they were though.
Just buy second hand ones all the time for cheap if only using on track though biggrin
Its pretty well known that its the other way around mate.

A048 is slightly better in the dry.... but not great in the wet

R888 not quite as good as A048 in dry... but far better in wet.





rdodger

1,089 posts

229 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Ryan

You should ask in the trackday section too.

Jim runs 888's on his Fury a combo of soft and med I think as does Adrian. Might be worth asking them too.

Yazza54

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207 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Will do, cheers Rog

Broken

224 posts

187 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Have a look at kumho v70a used them on my octavia for a track day and found them fine, were also a fair bit cheaper than 888s and A048s

jason61c

5,978 posts

200 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Also federal 595 rs-r

Pum

270 posts

297 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Very impressed with Michelin Pilot Sport Cup on my TVR Grif, but also very impressed with AO48 on my Lotus Elise.

Yazza54

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20,277 posts

207 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Can't seem to find the federals or kumhos in my size. 185/60/13 and 205/60/13

Will look at the michelins cheers

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Ryan, i'd suggest you try the Yoko 21R's. I run 3 sets on my Phoenix, Toyo R888, Yoko AO48R and Yoko 21R. To be honest, I prefer the 21's in general and they are still good on track owing to the fact they are stupidly soft. When worn down a bit so the treadblocks are more stable they are fantastic on track in the dry. Not ultimately as fast obviously, but unless you are racing that does not really matter. And they are very progressive when they do let go. But they dont last too long, but they come with over 50% more tread than the other two to begin with so that pretty much evens it out. I take it you want these tyres to bring to the Alps with us in the summer?? Well I am going to be buying a brand new set of 21's to take out there, if we hit any snow (like last year) or low / freezing temperatures then 21's will be massively safer out there than the others ( which I have in the past used out there too). And as far as I know, as a bonus 13" Yoko 21Rs are only about £200 per set, in my 14" they are about £350. Arse.

AdiT

1,027 posts

183 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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Ryan ,I'm running R888s in GG compound (med). Same sizes as you. Beware of the more mainstrean tyres as the sidewalls are a bit stiff on a 500kg car. I'm considering the Yoko R021s for this summers trip. The 888s are fine on wet roads (especially if you can get some heat into them) but I had a couple of aqua-planning incidents last year onstanding water... they behaved the same as Lee's 021s on the snow though! You will need to leave for the Alps on a new set if you don't intend to get home running on canvas!

Yazza54

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20,277 posts

207 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Just been checking out prices, the yokos are like 20 quid a corner more! I can't see how they can be worth that much more than the 888s??

Only thing that is making me shy away from 888s is people mentioning aquaplaning. That scares the st out of me.

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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48's, 32's and 888's aquaplane just the same, trust me. 21's

jeffw

845 posts

254 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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888 are fine unless you are dealing with a lot of standing water. If you find yourself in a thunderstorm then you have to slow down. I've done lots of trips on R888 and it really isn't an issue....

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Were any of those trips in the rain Jeff?

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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We went to the PH run to Goodwood and toured the Rolls Royce factory (awesome ), Then we were going to cross country to attend the Fisher Sportscars open day. The rain was HEAVY, and the A24 near Lewes was flooded. I had nearly new 888's on and and even at 40mph I aquaplaned 6' off line and nearly mounted the verge. st myself, litterally. The road was floodedm but fresh 21's would have driven through no question. Ryan, whatever tyres you buy before we go to the Alps they will be pretty much bald when you get home, everybody is the same. 21's, 888's or 48's they will be bald. And historically we WILL hit some bad rain over the 2,500 miles. It's your call, but you will not be any slower because you were on 21s on a dry road, but you WILL be slower in pissing rain and dicing with an accident if you are on 888's or 48's if the going gets really bad. I was the only car ( I was on 21's)out of 9 to reach the top of the Grimselpass in the snowstorm, ALL the others ( on 48's and 888's ) were stationary wheelspinning as we passed them. We all had to go gingerly back down , blizzard conditions. It's your call!


Me returning back down to help man-handle the Fury crews to safety!!

Edited by Furyblade_Lee on Monday 28th March 22:18

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Check out the 888 wheel tracks!!! :-) I just drove straight up that road on 21s.....

AdiT

1,027 posts

183 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Ermm... I wasn't stuck... apart from those in front of me with no LSD blocking the road (on Toyo A539 "road" tyres in that picture). Stopped several times and set off again on 888's.
I'm probably going to go for A021's this year though, despite Lee demonstrating that they struggled with some conditions last year.

Edited by AdiT on Monday 28th March 22:49

Yazza54

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20,277 posts

207 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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I have no lsd and a heavy righty!


Looks like 21s are worth the extra monies £££££££!

Furyblade_Lee

4,114 posts

250 months

Monday 28th March 2011
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Was that one on A539s???? Does look like a road trye tread now you mention it.... That's pretty pants if it is. But I don't recall Ryans car getting up that mountain either though last time when Ian owned it. Nobody came within about 1/4 mile of where we got. Well, I am 100% sure my car would not have made it with 888 or 48's on. But Adi I was about 120kgs heavier than you as I had a passenger and all his luggage too. So that may have given me slightly better traction I suppose.